Naoya Inoue Vs. Juan Carlos Payano This Sunday — Who Wins And How?!

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Naoya Inoue Vs. Juan Carlos Payano

Poll closed Oct 7, 2018.
  1. Inoue By T/KO

    82.4%
  2. Inoue By Decision

    7.8%
  3. Payano By T/KO

    7.8%
  4. Payano By Decision

    2.0%
  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not really. it has 2 good names, Estrada and Rungvisai. Ancajas and Yafai are not any better than a Burnett or McDonnell. 118 is weak but Tete is probably just as hard of a fight for Inoue as those 2.
     
  2. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    you just defend all japan fighters truth is most suck . every once in awhile they gget someone decent.
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Above 130, I agree. Most do suck. But below 130 saying most suck is just ignorant. You also have to take in count average height and weight. There's a reason why Mexico doesn't have a HW world champ. It's not because Mexican boxers mostly "suck", it's because they're smaller. Once in a while they get someone decent? How long way Uchiyama champ? How long was Yamanaka champ? Inoue is levels above them too.

    Also I've shat on Inoue all the time for his opposition you can ask @CST80 I don't just dickride every "japanese" fighter.
     
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  4. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    The type of fighter you are describing does not jump at the opportunity to fight for a title against a proven opponent in what i believe was his 8th fight... and although leaning on racial bias is a pretty weak thing to lean on HAVE YOU MET A JAPANESE PERSON OR GONE TO THE COUNTRY.. those people are prob the last people id pick to duck anything or anyone.


    Mr ohashi spoke to me personally jan 2015 and i can tell you he was sooo ****ing keen on matching inoue against chocolotito (who at the time looked unstoppable and previously held a win over yaegashi, stable mate of inoue)

    You could see how confident he was in his fighter.
     
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  5. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    That's some concentrated Haterade you drankin', son.
     
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  6. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    eh hes overated overhyped tiny little man :)
     
  7. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Howso?
     
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  8. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    hasn't beat one elite fighter. koing b+ world champs yet gets treated like a king on here lol.
     
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Besides Canelo who is beating A level champions? I would also say Inoue is beating B- to B level champs more than B+. Though Taguchi is arguably in the B+ range.

    Loma's best win is Linares. He's B+ level.
    Crawford's best wins are Horn, Gamboa and Postol. They are B+ to A- level.
    Mikey's best wins are Easter and Broner. They're B-B+ level.

    Now Loma, Crawford and Mikey have abundance of B-B+ level opponents compared to Inoue who has like a lot of C-B- level guys, but no one is really beating elite champions besides Canelo who beat GGG.

    By the way, I 100% want Inoue to fight better comp. @CST80 back me up on this, I've whined to you countless times in inbox that Inoue needs to stop fighting bums like Kono and fight these top level guys. Even if it's not his fault, I don't care. That's why I was glad he moved up since he couldn't get fights. By entering the WBSS he gave himself the opportunity to fight B-B+ level competition in Burnett and Tete. Getting an A level guy is almost impossible. Sor Rungivisai, Estrada and Rigo are probably the A- to A level guys around his division.
     
  10. Boxingfan200

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    linares was a A champion smh I stopped reading after that proves ydksab to say linares was b+
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    How is he an A level champion lmao. Wtf? You rate him along the likes of Canelo, Kovalev, GGG, Ward, Loma, Crawford, Spence, etc? FOH. There has to be a distinction between A level competition.

    Linares best wins are Mitchell, Crolla, and Campbell. He's been stopped countless times too. What makes Linares comparable to the true A level guys I listed above? Dude was losing on the cards and getting outboxed by Mitchell before stopping him, he barely scraped by Campbell. He utterly schooled Crolla in the 2nd fight, but that's it. That's his perfect performance and Crolla just came off BARELY scraping by an old Burns ffs.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Linares was B+ as was Postol and Horn, but based on his form going into the fight and the fact that Gamboa was moving up, Gamboa is B-, it was a Rigo level type win.
     
  13. ellerbe

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    I can also agree that Linares is an A- win not a B+ win because Loma was dealing with a big size disadvantage. But in terms of level he's B+ and I'm glad we can agree with that. It's ridiculous to put him on the same level as an Usyk, Crawford, Mikey, GGG, Loma, etc.

    Bro c'mon, that wasn't no B- level win. Gamboa already fought at 135 and fought at 130 prior too!!! Rigo was old and washed up and moved up 2 weight classes.
     
  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    My boy @CST80 be getting a lot of upsets though. @UnleashtheFURY don't be hating. But **** CST for getting his upsets and shoving it in people's faces :fusmile
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Gamboa had looked like warmed over ass in the leadup to the Crawford fight, he didn't look great against Perez at 135, looked terrible against Farenas, and only so so againsr Ponce De Leon. There was visible proof he was on the slide, and his post Crawford shoddy performances back that up.

    As far as Rigo goes, sure he was old, but he legit KO'd Flores in 1, something Daniel Roman, who's damn good, couldn't accomplish in 12 rounds of viciously pounding on him, the Jazza performance, while a shoddy opponent, Kid Galahad had a lot of issues with Jazza before finally stopping him in the 10th IIRC, Rigo tore that mother****ers jaw off.:lol: Based on form heading into their matches, Rigo showed the slightly better.