AJ's Credibility Taken A Hit?

If Joshua next 3 fights are whyte then miller then Usyk. They are 3 decent fights, however they will get pulled to pieces if they dont fight wilder.

Nobody will want to fight Usyk in the heavyweight division to be honest and that could be a tougher test than wilder.

Fury has really rocked the boat here by taking the wilder fight. It was unexpected and everyone thought it would be a good year before fury was fighting at this level.

I personally think fury is cashing out. I don't think he is bothered about taking a loss. Its probably better money than a few more fights together.

Its been a brilliant move from wilder and his team and next year will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

 

The continued quoting of Barry Hearn is pointless. Neither Barry Hearn or Eddie Hearn tell AJ who he can and cannot fight. Barry Hearn has an opinion but to think he can just ignore whatever AJ wants is ridiculous

 

Eddie Hearn said that the $50m offer was legit and it was up to Joshua. He chose not to fight.

 

Joshua wants to keep most of the pot to himself and his opponent to get a fraction of it.

 

No he said the offer was legit until they asked for a contract which they never got.

We now know the reason for this. Wilder's team were prepared to take the fight to BT and team Joshua could never agree to that.

 

He said the offer was legit and it was down to Joshua. Why draft a contract when Joshua walked away?
Hearn only came out with the BT excuse months later after Wilder and Fury easily agreed a deal (without a contract, date or venue).
Everyone with half a brain cell knew he was boxing Povetkin and then WHYTE3 THE BEEF RETURNS in April.

 

I know he isn’t automatically part of the DAZN deal, but they have the option to take the fights and I guarantee any offer to Wilder would state the fight hasto be on DAZN which is what will
be one of the major sticking points. With Eddie struggling to get it off the ground, he will of course be pushing AJ to fight on the App like he did for the Povetkin fight.

 

If team Wilder are prepared to pay AJ 50 million it seems very odd that they never made very serious moves to get Martin Klitchko or Parker doesn't it ? With pockets that deep you'd think they'd be the preferred unification route.

 

To answer your question all you have to do is read the replies to Barry Hearn, Eddie Hearn & Sky Sports tweets regarding AJ/Wilder....no one believes them anymore.

 

Agreed and that's probably half the battle in this fight where it's going to be shown in America , but I believe there is good reason why Joshua hasn't been included in the DAZN deal because it allows flexibility, I simply don't believe the 50 million offer was genuine purely because how da fuk do you pay a guy 50 million when less than 1.5 million people in a country as large as america watched your guy in a primetime non ppv event last time out , I believe that this is all facade to a make the AJ fight bigger is get it hyped then let it marinate and B to discredit Hearn because they see him as a huge threat if he cracks America.

 

Joshua’s Contract with Sky Expired after the Parker fight. Notice how they announced the renewal of his deal with Sky on the weigh in day of Whyte-Parker which was Late July. The offer for the $50M came in Late May.

BT and Sky would’ve had to fight for the UK TV Rights, with the highest bidder winning. Hearn done the same with DAZN and Showtime in the US, highest bidder wins, no loyalty, it’s just buisness.

Funny how the Hearns dont like it when it’s the other way around
Keep up and don’t fall for the Hearn BS.

 

Joshua’s Contract with Sky Expired after the Parker fight. And Sky would have had the chance to make a bid. Just like for Mayweather v Mcgregor or Mayweather v Pacquiao, highest bidder wins the tv rights for every seperate country bar the Host Broadcaster and host country which would’ve been SHOWTIME PPV in the US

 

AJ was always going to resign with Matchroom and Sky. It was agreed well before they officially announced it hence why Hearn repeatedly when asked about AJ's deal kept repeating he wasn't worried or concerned he would go elsewhere.

Also you are wrong, AJ's last fight on his previous deal would of been the Povetkin fight not Parker.

Thats where you are wrong. There clearly is loyalty. Why would AJ **** on the network that has been with him from day 1 making him a PPV star?

Now does Wilder have a contract with showtime? No

However even according to Stephen Espinoza loyalty is far more important than some contract.

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But hey its just business isn't it so Wilder can fight wherever he wants and showtime can just deal with it.

Do keep up.

How is that even remotely the same situation.

AJ is a Sky Box office fighter. How is Mcgregor, Mayweather or Pacquiao remotely close the AJ situation.

Whether you want to debate that the highest bidder wins is irrelevant as the point is AJ was never going to fight on another UK network as like Stephen Espinoa said its all about loyalty.

Not my words, his words.

 

I still can’t believe why AJ didn’t just cut this lot out after the Parker fight when his contrac

Hearn could’ve announced the contract renewal earlier if he could’ve. The fact the legal declarations were signed in July, hence the announcement in July. The $50M offer came in Late May.

We also don’t know other infringements such as whether the Sky Contract meant only AJ Fighting in UK. If AJ fights outside the UK, would Sky still be automatically assumed as the UK Broadcaster.

The fact is the $50M offer meant Finkle/Haymon would’ve controlled the Worldwide TV Rights and Joshua’s Contract with Sky Ended in March and was formally announced in July. BT and Sky wouldn’ve had to bid against eachother, which would meant more money for AJ as he would’ve presumably got the largest share of the UK PPV Pie so win-win for everyone

I didn’t say loyalties was not important, i just used it as a example to what the Hearns are like. Showtime backed Joshua first, then suddenly Hearn decided to put last rights on AJ to DAZN in the US. Joshua v Wilder is a PPV Fight in the US, DAZN are not in the PPV Buisness and won’t be able to match the money which would be generated.

 

Once that Contract expired, he was legally no longer a Sky Box Office fighter, if he wanted to he could’ve gone to other networks like BT and see what kind of package they would offer him to fight on their channel and then go back to Sky to negotiate a better deal.

He didn’t do that, but it still was a potential possibility. The situation is similar to the Mayweather V Pac/Mcg fights.
In Mayweather’s Case, Mayweather Promotions could sell the UK TV Rights to whoever they wanted to as they owned the world tv rights. Same with Finkle.

You go through IMG (the third party) and Negotiate with the Broadcasters to discuss the splits and how much they want to pay. The $50M offer was the for fight to take place in the US, the US would’ve generated the bulk of the money.

So it makes to sense to maximise the tv rights for all other regions