How can Crawford be rated at the top of the P4P list when he won't fight top contenders?

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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Vasyl Lomachenko moved up and faced Jorge Linares who was Ring #1 lightweight contender and WBA world champion.

    Terence Crawford moved up, and faced a limited journeyman in Jeff Horn (who had received a gift decision over a faded old fighter). Now, Crawford is facing another limited journeyman (Boxrec #31 welterweight) in Jose Benavidez.

    Until Crawford fights and defeats a genuine top fighter like Errol Spence or Keith Thurman, he doesn't deserve to be rated in the top 5 P4P. His resume is weak. Agree or disagree?

    The fight with Benavidez is not at all an interesting matchup, because we all know who is going to win. However, a Spence vs. Crawford fight would be a great one for the sport of boxing and the welterweight division, and you could make an argument that the winner would deserve to be P4P #1 or at least in the top 3.
     
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  2. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Why are you acting weird or YDKSAB?!
    i think its the second part you goddamn bozo. Its the same reason Pacquiao never fought any of the guys at PBC and Lomachenko only fought 1, Gary Russell, and thats when they were all under the Golden Boy banner. You know the politics of boxing but you are acting like a butt just to spite Crawford like he is ducking those PBC guys , when in reality we see them ducking each other.
    Porter, Garcia, Thurman, Broner, Mayweather, Pacquiao none of these guys have called out Spence. Crawford has 5x and Spence is the one acting like a lil broad trying to dismiss Crawford because he is a bully who is afraid to fight someone thats not afraid of him.
     
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  3. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    You described Mikey Garcia.
     
  4. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Spence got Mikey Garcia problems.
     
  5. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hell of a fighter but I have Loma, Usyk, GGG, Canelo and Mikey in front of him.
    His best win is vs a PE teacher who starter boxing at like 20.
     
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  7. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Top rank doesnt have any other good WWs signed besides Pac.
    Pac has had terrible WW competition for years now besides Bradley wjo is another top rank fighter.

    Arum insists on in-house fights, to the extent that he even gets his own fighters robbed just to milk a trilogy out of one inhouse matchup.
     
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  8. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Crawford moved up to 147 and fought for a belt in his first fight against the man that took the belt from Pac. He was undisputed at 135 and 140 so who did he avoid at those weights? You, sir, appear to be a hater and will poo-poo on Crawford no matter who he fights.
     
  9. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Active Member Full Member

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    Crawford is more than willing to fight other top fighters. There's no way Al wants TC to bash his little WW monopoly, though, and Arum isn't going to bend over backwards to try to make it happen. Boxing politics suck and this situation was easy to spot a couple of years ago when Crawford talked about moving up.

    I have cash money on TC not fighting a Haymon champ until at least 2020. The ONLY way it will happen is if a sanctioning body makes TC a mandatory.
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well I definitely want to see Spence vs Crawford soon. And if it doesnt happen it's a shame.
     
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  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Al doesn't make it any easier with his absurd purses for his fighters. He pays his guys more money than he has. So they collect one big purse and sit on the bench for the rest of the year or for the entire of next year as well.

    Because he doesnt have the funds to pay for more cards.
     
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  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    What irritated me so much was Crawfords endless whining about fighting Pac. Manny Pac is 40 years old, shot to pieces, small and holds no world title belt.

    Why Crawford has to ***** and moan on Twitter and in every interview about not fighting Pac. Just let it go man.

    Instead of being frustrated with not fighting Pac. He needs to tell Al Haymon to stop paying his Welterweights so much damn money. And get the fight on. Or give Arum a demand that he negotiate with Al.

    Do something. Anything.
     
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  13. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I dont have him top but I have him high regardless of his resume. It is missing that signature name but the resume, which can be seen of proof by some of P4P status, is only one aspect of what puts people in that list and in many of the other aspects he excels to the point you can see he is the real deal, he isnt going to be exposed as anything but a top top fighter in his career, i just dont see any glaring weaknesses in his game at all.
     
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  14. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Then blame Al Haymon. He can't even make those welterweights at PBC fight each other. What's meaningful behind Porter fighting Berto or Thurman and Garcia sitting around. Spence is inactive and needs a guy like Benavidez. Al won't even book him a bum or old man Collazo to test his body.
    Errol Spence last bout has Ocampo, what a beast. All those 147 guys at PBC and they can only get Ocampo?!
    Khan (before leaving for Hearn)
    Porter
    Garcia
    Alexander
    Berto
    Thurman
    oh, yeah Spence can fight at 154 right?!
    Lara
    Charlo
    Trout
    Hurd
    Williams

    All those fights and Spence is fighting Ocampo. Top Rank does not have the stable PBC has and Crawfords record is still better.
     
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  15. 175 Champ

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    He moved up and fought the man that received a paper title via robbery. Being undisputed at 140 doesn't mean much when your best wins are Postol, Indongo, Molina, and Diaz. Crawford's resume is really becoming a joke.
     
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