How can Joshua lose so many rounds against middle aged man who is also midget?

You've never been objective in your entire life... you cannot define objectivity because it is not something you understand.

You are the most subjective human being on this forum, and if you aren't actually a legitimate troll.

Bottom line... what exactly is your point from this thread? Povetkin is 39, Joshua beat him... it's 2018

We can't send Joshua back in time and make a fight with a younger Povetkin, today it is what it is. Joshua is champion... yes he's big, yes he's tall.... so what???????????

What do you want? What are you exposing? No one is comparing him to the older generation... nobody gives a **** right now...

All we are looking at is Joshua against today's opposition you idiota

 

Oh, so someone disagrees with you, and you can't handle it, therefore, they deserve to be banned?

Your inability to deal with disagreements is your problem! If you can't handle disagreements, then that's on you!

I'm happy to know that you take my words so SERIOUSLY (a random online poster), that you believe I deserve to be banned for having differing viewpoints than yours.

Pretty pathetic! Speaks volumes about yourself, and your quality of life, outside of the internet, if you take someone's differing views online that seriously. You're INADVERTENTLY exposing yourself.

If you haven't figured out what my point is by now, then you're cognitively inept. Therefore, you need to train your cognitive abilities. As I already stated, take some logic courses!

 

Remember this “midget is the same one that Wilder ran from like a scared little rabbit.

Now we know why he did run..

 

Maybe when you put a decent argument together people will take you seriously.

 

I have read every word you post.. and made a note of all the threads you posted... they all have a common theme..
lacking in logic and reaching far to hate on a succesful boxer.

You talk so much about the tenets of logic and logical fallacies but you never once apply any of them... you don't practise what you preach..

The fact that everything you say has no logic tells me so much about your ability and background in life... and education.

A logical mind is a trained mind... it looks at things objectively and does not pass assumptions as conclusions.. which is what you do alll the time.

Even your thread title is pathetic and not the words of an intellectual or a logical mind.. just a feeble troll who is attention seeking.

6 foot 2 is not a midget... you will not find a scientist today that would agree under any circumstances unless there is a competition full of 7 foot plus giants.

Povetkin is not merely a.middle aged man he is a highly decorated boxer who looked fresh as a daisy on fight night the camera does not lie. Video processing software can run analysis in real-time to calculate the speed of his punches and movement and compare it to footage of all heavyweight fights to show a baseline average.

You'll find Povetkin is faster than most.. So you are lucky we do not have these resources on the forum because I would prove you wrong every day.

But you would argue about the quality of the technology..
Even if a calculator was right you would say it is wrong.

You cannot grasp the idea that experience provides a legitimate advantage in many sports and many competitions but you completely disregarded that.

This is why many martial artists who are grandmasters and old men can kick young black belt asses because of experience and technique. But you dont accept these facts or even be open to this concept.

Your thought.process is never logical because you exclude all of these ideas.. you are narrow minded and ignore all information... just the information that justifies your own argument.

You have never written a thesis in your entire life because it would fail and I guarantee it.. if Im wrong show me.

 

Now ask me if I care if a random online user like you, takes me seriously online.

 

Lennox Lewis vs Ray mercer was a fight that shouldn't have been close at all on paper.
Lewis was alot better than Joshua and povetkin more skilled than mercer

But you never know for sure in boxing

 

Why bother then?

 

It's not a 'bother'.

 

If your comparisons are anything to go by, Povetkin also had all of the disadvantages you listed vs David Price and he knocked him out.

What evidence was there that Povetkin was shot before he faced Joshua. All of your arguments are based on out-there speculation, such as your insistence that the judges are biased.

For the rest of my fellow forum dwellers:

"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience", Mark Twain.

 

I never claimed David Price is a 'top heavyweight'. My point was, no heavyweight in history beat a top / elite heavyweight at age 39, with as many disadvantages as Povetkin faced against Anthony Joshua. The fact that Povetkin even managed to beat David Price (I had my doubts that he could), proves he is better than pretty much any other past heavyweight like Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson and etc. Who were all losing to far inferior opponents or equal level opponents compared to David Price by the same age period.

What evidence do I have of Povetkin being 'shot'. Maybe because he was dropped in his previous fight against a journeyman caliber opponent in David Price and took more damage / punches than he would have at his peak? At his peak, he performed far better, without suffering any knockdowns or taking as many punches against better level opponents like Johann Duhaupas and Mariusz Wach.

Or how about we stick to historical facts. No past heavyweight that was of a similar size to Alexander Povetkin, and of a similar style, was ever not 'shot' or anywhere close to their primes at a similar age as when Povetkin faced Anthony Joshua. This includes Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Muhammad Ali and etc. All were losing to far inferior opponents than Anthony Joshua. So why should we even give Povetkin a chance against Joshua at the same age, unless we consider him to be a superior boxer than all those past heavyweights?

How about we look at his style? Povetkin has a very high intensity, pressure fighting style. How often in history, did we ever see a boxer who had such a style at such an old age, who was also smaller than most of the boxers in the top 10, successful at the top / elite level whilst giving up as many disadvantages? Povektin's very style is a young man's style. It's not meant for old people in their late 30's / 40's.

Or how about we look as some science? People's durability goes down, the more they get hit. This is a known fact! And Povetkin's durability was worst when he fought Joshua than at any other point in his career, considering, he was more shopworn and had taken more punches in his head / body when he fought Joshua, than against any other opponent. In other words, Povetkin's durability was 'shot'. Joshua merely stopped a Povetkin who had accumulated career worth of damage from his past 2 + decades of doing amateur boxing + pro boxing + kickboxing.

Plus, athlete's ability to recover / heal from damage also declines as they grow older. Be it in training when trying to recover sore muscles, or during a fight when trying to recover from physical damage. So do their endurance. So do their reaction times.

Want evidence? When was the last time you saw a long distance / marathon runner winning a gold medal or finishing at first position at age 39?

When was the last time you saw any athlete, in a sport like boxing or in boxing itself, winning gold medals (or any medals for that matter) in the Olympics at age 39?

When was the last time you saw someone who was the fastest sprinter in the world at age 39.

You know, there are reasons for why such things occur. These are patterns! It's scientifically proven for athletes to decline MASSIVELY after reaching the age that Povetkin was when he fought Joshua.

I'm merely holding Alexander Povetkin to the same standard as I would to any other athlete / boxer. Why should Povetkin be expected to accomplish anywhere near as much, when no other athlete / boxer is accomplishing anywhere close to what Povetkin is expected to accomplish? Not just in boxing, but in various other sports.

When we see enough evidence of athletes no longer being at their best at age 39, then we must hold Povetkin to the same standard.

 

If Povetkin is a midget as you say when he retires he can get a job in Pantomime as one of Snow Whites dwarfs or become a Ewok or the next R2D2 in Stars Wars

 

Povetkin is a good fighter. Simple.

 

He had a good first 3 rounds then AJ figurered him out and those shots to the body started slowing him down.
Styles make fights and POV is still a live body he is a top 5 fighter in his division. This is boxing rising stars beating the old guard is the nature of the game. This was a solid win for AJ as Ortiz was for Wilder (who won more rounds prior to the KO and dropped Wilder) I didn’t think Wilder had it in him but he showed heart and grit in that fight.

Everyone so quick to **** on everyone’s achievements these days.

 

Povetkin was flung to the canvas by Klitschko who was using illegal tactics. He got one KD that came by way of a legal punch.
AJ beat and stopped Pov fighting clean while Wlad should have lost by DQ.