Was Golovkin's punch power exposed in 2 fights (24 rounds) against Canelo Alvarez as lacking?

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Was Gennady Golovkin's punch power exposed in 2 fights(24 rounds) against Canelo Alvarez as lacking?

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  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We could argue all day long about how Golovkin was robbed against Canelo Alvarez. And how he deserved to win on the scorecards. And how he had no chances of winning, even if he dropped / stopped Canelo Alvarez.

    But let's consider this. Golovkin was supposed to be known as a devastating puncher. Was known as a knockout artist! But recently, he's just coming off 24 rounds against Canelo Alvarez, a guy who had never previously fought in the 160 pounds middleweight division before he fought Golovkin. As in, he was totally new to that weight division. And visibly the smaller sized boxer compared to Golovkin. Yet, in 24 rounds, Golovkin failed to score even a SINGLE, let that sink in people, Golovkin failed to score even a SINGLE knockdown on this Canelo Alvarez? What does that tell us about Golovkin's punching power?

    And this is a Canelo Alvarez who fought on the back-foot (first fight) and on the front foot (second fight). So no excuses can be made of Canelo Alvarez merely being in survival mode.

    And Golovkin did land MULTIPLE flush power punches cleanly on Canelo Alvarez's head / body. Yet, never mind achieving a KO, he couldn't even achieve a single knockdown after 24 rounds.

    Maybe Golovkin deserved to win on the scorecards. But it's not like he UTTERLY DOMINATED by dropping Canelo Alvarez multiple times. He didn't! So if Golovkin is really considered such a puncher, should there exist any justifiable excuses for him failing to even score a single knockdown on Canelo Alvarez in 24 rounds? Or is the only reasonable explanation for his failure, down to his punching power being exposed to be TOTALLY and UTTERLY lacking?

    Shouldn't Golovkin have score at least one, if not multiple knockdowns on Canelo Alvarez if he was a genuine knockout / power puncher in 24 rounds? Or is his failure to achieve this simple feat, evidence that he's been lacking power all along in the first place?

    Considering 24 rounds is very long time to get one knockdown. But even then, Golovkin couldn't score a single knockdown.

    That's the question Golovkin fans should be asking themselves. Where was Golovkin's power? Why couldn't he score one / few knockdowns to convincingly win on the scorecards? Or better yet, why couldn't he outright stop Canelo Alvarez with his power? Rather than moaning about Golovkin being robbed on the scorecards.
     
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  2. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, at the very highest level it's very hard to get KOs (especially in the divisions below HW). Often a big puncher KO everyone until top level opposition comes along, then we find out whether that guy can also box and compete tactically. What we saw was that Alvarez has a superb chin.
     
  3. BCS8

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    No.

    Golovkin has always been a boxer that can punch. He also clearly hurt Canelo in the second fight.

    Moreover, let's give Canelo credit, he demonstrated elite defence and a fantastic chin. He's twice the fighter at 160 that he was at lower weights, and I think that is because his body isnt struggling with dehydration anymore.
     
  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The juicing programme worked.

    Insults aside, Clenelo has a A+++ chin.

    Lets put him in with other punchers, Charlo and Jacobs to confirm it.
     
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  5. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Not really. I thought Canelo’s defensive skills were very good. GGG didn’t really catch him with many eye catching punches at all.

    What I would say is that GGG has a come forward, aggressive game, and his age showed because of his game. GGG is all about being explosive, consistently. It’s a young man’s game plan.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    Good replies all round
     
  7. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime Lennox Lewis couldn't drop even once washed up Evander Holyfield in 24 rounds. Size difference between Lewis and Holyfield was HUGE and Lewis landed multiple power punches and combinations against Holyfield, yet Holyfield was never seriously hurt against Lewis. How many granite-cinned fighters did Lewis knock down? Did he knock down Holyfield, Mercer, McCall, Tua, Vitali, Mavrovic? Nope. And he hit each of them with his absolutely best punches. His power looked incredible against fighters, who weren't known for having great chins, so, to some extent, we can say his power might be overrated, because Lennox never dropped granite-chinned guys. Not even once in his career.

    The same goes to Golovkin - his power looked great against less durable opponents, but against Canelo it didn't look devastating. Is Lewis' and GGG's punching power overrated? Probably a bit. But they should still be considered as big punchers in my opinion.
     
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  8. Holler

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    Often the only way that a KO happens at elite level is if the guy doesn't see it coming.

    That may sound obvious to the point of stupidity, but what I mean is that where a fighter anticipates the punch they can take a much bigger hit once they're set to receive it than if something sneaks through completely unnoticed. Hence some boxers surviving bone crushing big hits but wind up hitting the deck from much 'lesser' but well timed clipping shots.
     
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  9. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GGG was never a 1 punch KO guy. We thought he was a very heavy handed pressure fighter like Chavez or Cotto at 140.

    What was exposed was his style which is more of a boxer puncher who comes forward if you let him( but he won't physically push you back like a foreman or Duran, and if you come forward he will actually back up) and his unwillingness to take big risks against Canelo, he wouldn't even go to the body and he only started attacking once Abel told him he was losing.
    That tells me he has a problem dealing with Handspeed.


    Doesn't mean GGG was less than I thought(although he is certainly less than some thought), it means he is DIFFERENT.

    Also I think the money has made him less ferocious. And not getting big fights until he started slipping has discouraged him.

    I don't think the guy who walked through fire and didnt care about counters against brook is there anymore.
     
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  10. Donkey Ohtay

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    Sugar Ray Robinson never dropped Jake La Motta in 6 fights.
     
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  11. dinovelvet

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    No , he has the power , he just winds up his shots so much they become telegraphed and Canelo was able to see them coming.

    The footage doesn't lie.


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    Apparently an easy win for Golovkin yet he barely hit him over 12 rounds straight. :facepalm:
    GGG was so slow , he made Canelo look like Ali.
     
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    ..and you miserable hater are so slow you make Corky look like Einstein. Your comments on every fcuking GGG thread are the same so why bother?
     
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    Unable to handle criticism is a sign of mental weakness.
     
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    He's so slow he makes icicles look like rockets taking off.

    He's so slow he makes staglamites look dynamic.
     
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    It hasn't been a prime GGG for a while no, his speed has decreased dramatically so its hard to land his shots.

    Add to the fact Canelo is cuter defensively than given credit for with a great chin if called upon
     
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