Wilder #1 Heavyweight IF beats Fury

AJ ducked Ortiz.
Whyte ducked Ortiz.
Aint nobody ever ducked anyone on AJ or Whyte's records ever #BumsAndHasBeens

FYI, Wilder signed to fight Ortiz TWO TIMES then KO'd him.

 

Nice try, but you can't fight logic and fact with emotional accusations.

Fact is, you don't know anything about the US market or US boxing fans but you repeat your negative BS like it's proven fact. The source of your BS is clearly Hearn. Whether you admit it or not, his turd is on your breath. Keep lapping it up though son. LOL.

 

Ortiz was unbeaten and shamelessly ducked by AJ and Whyte. Two men who's best wins were both to men coming off career defining losses. It would seem AJ and Whyte can't beat a fighter until they see someone else do it first. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

To be fair Joshua beat Charles Martin 1st and Joseph Parker.

Monumental victories which cements his place as an ATG.

 

So who has Ortiz beaten?

 

He completely battered and destroyed the same Jennings that went 12 rounds with Klitschko, Tony Thompson that beat David price twice, the same price that would have been on Joshua's record had he finished the job against Povetkin.

And Joshua would mostl likely have been a victim on his record had he not reported Ortiz to the WBA to get him removed as mandatory.

Likewise Dillian Whyte should have been another victim had he not be terrified of this supposedly 49 year old man.

 

So that was before the coke, the weight gain, depression, inactivity.

Thanks for clearing that up

 

Exactly.

These people don't seem to realise that by calling Ortiz a random old bum, they're clearly saying AJ is terrified of random old bums.

Unbeaten boogeyman Ortiz was legit and AJ should hope one day he manages to get a win that good on his bum and has-been filled record.

 

STILL LINEAL HW CHAMP
STILL UNBEATEN
STILL VOIDIMIR'S DADDY
STILL THE TRUE WBO, WBA & IBF CHAMP

Your opinion on the facts above is irrelevant.

 

So where was it? Was Hearn lying when he said they wouldnt send him the details? Even Finkel said he wouldnt send him the details. And your not going to make a world unification without some details.

 

Give the know-it-all act a rest dude. I'm well aware of the market. That happens when you've been actually paying attention for 20+ years of watching.

 

So let me get this straight:

1. A part-time boxer who has a dayjob as a mechanic in a bank (Jennings) is Ortiz' best win?
2. Thompson who was 45 when Ortiz fought him is his 2nd best win?

So you admit those are his 3 best wins, which is pretty pathetic. I mean you just came up with 2 wins. So basically you're saying Ortiz record is very mediocre which was my whole point.

 

Thats lovely. Now do some for Wilder.

 

You asked the question who he beat and I answered.

Not Ortiz fault that other fighters are terrified of fighting him is it?

Nothing more Ortiz can do than becoming mandatory and begging the likes of Whyte and Joshua to fight him other than physically kidnapping them and fighting outside of the ring.

So I don't really understand your position here.

You're trying to paint a picture of Ortiz being poor whilst giving other fighters a free pass to duck this so-called poor old man.

We know Whyte would have received his wish to fight Wilder if he simply decided to fight this old man with the mediocre resume, yet wanted nothing to do with him.

Please don't waste my time unless you're going to apply some reasoning skills and basic common sense because my patience for tolerating and putting up with garbage posts is wearing thin.

 

When AJ has a resume as good as Wilder, you can maybe start talking this mess. As it stands, Ortiz is leagues above AJ's bum and has-been carousel.