Did any of you Golovkin fans predict before the first fight that Golovkin won't KO Canelo Alvarez?

my honest thought was that 3g would smash him in the first fight, although i had no evidence or GGG facing an elite to base that judgement on. Nor was I convinced that canelo was an elite either. Hence I predicted 3G smash.


but in the second fight, based on the evidence of the first fight, i predicted another draw.

 

I predicted he would KTFO Canelo, primarily because he would have to due to the judges being all on Canelos side. I also predicted he would stop him in the rematch for the same reason.
Those two fights soured me a bit toward the sport.

 

Dafuq are you on about? You never got a pick wrong?

Confirmation that you're as blind as a bat and that's why you think Canelo beat GGG

You're pretty thick, aren't you? I just said that and I explained my reasoning.

Next up Shadow111 "OMG! Idiscovered water!! No, really!!"

Yep.

He lost the fight dude. We have eyes.

WTF are you on about? Did you hit up Oscar's secret stash? Are you ventilating straight from his #2 exit as we speak?

I'm giving Canelo credit for levelling up, and levelling up in a big way, and being competitive with the #1 MW on the planet. But, OK, have it your way.

Canelo is just a bum who managed to go the distance with a vastly overrated and featherfisted OLD Golovkin while on drugs. The only time he ever fought an elite in Floyd he lost big time, got schooled and this despite being the much bigger fighter and in his prime.

Have a nice day

 

but whats the point in predicting what he "would have to do"?

both of them have to win. Your prediction should be a prediction.

 

Sorry dude.

You do know Santa isn't real, right?

 

I don't fully understand your argument. Golovkin IS old. It doesn't matter if someone accounted for that in their prediction or not. It is the truth. People get predictions wrong all of the time anyway. That doesn't mean that you can't reassess the fight afterwards. A lot of things factor into getting a knockoout.

 

Lol i do

 

Turns out a draw was a good prediction though realistically the judges would never of given us another draw.
Most articles I read had Golovkin winning but wasn’t surprised Canelo got the nod in such a close fight.

 

never a truer post AA, my scorecard had it a draw, although if allowed to favour effective aggression, canelo got it by a hairline so I can understand why it can be scared for him. I thought 3G was the more consistent aggressor over the whole 24 rounds though.

 

I predicted that unless Golovkin knocked down Canelo at least two times in the fight, there was no way he could win.

 

I rarely make bold predictions like that, and if I did make a prediction that didn't come true, like a KO, I would own it and say that I underestimated the opponent. I certainly woudln't start crying about the judges, which you did pretty much for a year straight after GGG didn't KO Canelo in the first fight. There are reasons why GGG couldn't KO Canelo and it was the stuff guys like me were talking about before the first fight that you mocked. I'm glad you're admitting what happened is finally starting to trickle out , but it's too little too late.

You're just salty becuase the OP hit home so much.

Buddy I'm not here to rub salt into your wound. I'm just saying the OP makes a great point about GGG fanatics who predicted a knockout and then started making excuses when that didn't happen. Also BCS8 you made a statement about how Canelo always had a gassing problem which I don't think there's any evidence of. He didn't gas vs Mayweather when he had to drain down to 152. He didn't have any gassing problems when he fought Smith at 154. A lot of times if you put on too much weight you can actually gas more.

As far as his gas tank and durability taking a quantum leap at 160, I don't think that's accurate because well many observed that he actually gassed out during the middle rounds vs GGG in the first fight, only to come on late in the fight. I think in regards to Canelo a lot of fans, particularly GGG fans, tend to confuse "pacing ones self" and "gassing". I mean truth be told the best stamina / gas tank Canelo ever had was against JCC Jr he stood between rounds for the entire fight which is still amazing to me. Say what you want about how good JCC Jr is, but standing between rounds for an entire fight vs anybody is impressive and shows you don't have any gassing problems.

Now you might say that it speaks to your point that his gas tank and durability took a quantum leap when he moved up and weight and he didn't have to cut weight anymore. I'm just saying technically we saw that when he fought JCC Jr at SMW, not as much when he fought GGG at 160. GGG had a lot to do with that obviously as those were much more grueling fights than his fight against JCC Jr, but I still look back at his time at 154 and even vs Floyd and frankly I didn't ever really see him gas out or have durability problems. Vs Floyd he got hit with some good shots he didn't really tire all that much. Gassing is what happened to Jacobs in the 12th round vs GGG after throwing himself out in the 11th. That's gassing BCS8. Canelo never was close to as gassed out as Jacobs was in the 12th round vs GGG in his entire career.

Having eyes doesn't prove that the guy you think won won lol. Judges have eyes too right. GGG's judges eyes saw Canelo winning.

Not really, giving Canelo credit would be saying he fought two incredible fights and earned those titles. You know how GGG left the ring after he lost the rematch, Sanchez said he did that to give Canelo his moment in the sun. You never did that , you never gave Canelo his moment in the sun.

I mean calling the rematch a robbery is the opposite of giving Canelo credit. That's basically discrediting Canelo and what he did. You don't have to agree with the decision but you should do more owning up to what happened in both fights. You just have a very "it was a robbery and that's that, all I want to do is complain about the judges" mantra that comes off as very fanboy-esque.

That's not my way funny man, that's a caricature. This is what I'm talking about, these kinds of exaggerations aren't helping your credibility.

 

Uh, yeah that's exactly what I said.

If the judges are rotten they're rotten. Its a fact the same as the fact that Canelo looks more impressive at 160 than 154.

No.

Saying Canelo is better than I thought is an excuse? Uh, what do you want me to say? Wait. I know. Oscar paid off Golovkin's team with a set of golden spoons if they promised they would not KO him and do a trilogy? Yeah. Makes sense

Dude its well documented, we've all seen it and the fact that you deny it shows that YOU are the fanatic around here. Give it up. It's like me trying to convince people Khan has an iron jaw

Why should I condone corruption?

 

Look I'm not saying he wasn't struggling to make 154, he certainly struggled to make 152 for Floyd which you then conveniently ignore. But when you are young, in your early 20s like Canelo was cutting weight really doesn't cause you to gas as much as it does when you get older. So that's a factor we need to consider as well.

You don't need to fight me on this one, I actually think there's some truth to what you're saying here only that it's more marginal. You used terms like quantum leap, and all I'm saying is the only fight I really saw Canelo take a quantum leap in stamina / gas tank was vs JCC Jr. I just know that going into the first GGG fight I never had any gas tank concerns about Canelo. I never thought he had gas tank problems at 154. If anything the only time he was really ever accused of gassing was in those middle rounds of the first fight with GGG, which kind of disproves what you're saying about how he took a quantum leap in gas tank when he moved up to MW.

Everyone is against "corruption", but it's what you believe is corruption and what you believe isn't that is the difference. Anyone could say that a result is due to corruption, but in most cases you can't prove it, and in most cases it comes off as sour grapes. Regardless of how you feel about the two fights between Canelo and GGG, you can't deny how prevalent sour grapes are in claims of corruption.