AJ'S Bodyguards (Whyte, Miller, Ortiz, Povetkin)

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  1. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    These men will be used to keep away all the men who could beat Joshua, and their rewards will be rematches with Joshua for some.

    Ortiz will not get an AJ fight miller probably won't either but will be used to block dangerous foes.

    Usyk will have to sign a 5 fight deal with eddie hearns and beat all four of AJ'S Bodyguards to get a fight with AJ, but hearns would rob Usyk on the cards to prevent it.
     
  2. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Hahaha what are you talking about? The vast majority of the top heavyweights in the world are on DAZN or about to be. You want to fight Joshua, or anyone of relevance in the division, your going to have to fight on DAZN.
     
  3. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    Ah yes, the great Matchroom conspiracy. Have you been converted by the rest of the Hearn/AJ hatemob?

    Don't forget your tinfoil hat.
     
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  4. Beez

    Beez Active Member Full Member

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    You do realise that AJ can only fight one challenger at a time...

    I understand the cloud/frustration around the AJ/Wilder fight but if anything since the Martin fight AJ has shown he is willing to take on the best available.

    and so by your logic... these guys will be used to fight other dangerous contenders... well if Povetkin fights Usyk for example and beats Usyk to get a rematch Im good with that... if these guys are all fighting each other inorder to get a shot and AJ happy days... the 2 fights a year AJ has will be with a deserved challenger...
     
  5. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Glad to see you’ve changed your tune on Usyk. A couple weeks ago you were wish permanent injury on him... AT THE HANDS OF JOSHUA. Lol Good that you educated yourself on who the best HW in the world (Will be anyway) truly is and realized the error of your ways :thumbsup:
     
  6. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's how it should be. If you beat the guys Joshua has beat then you get a shot a Joshua. Why should anybody leap frog the next guy in line.

    It's unification bouts first. Then mandatory challenger. That should be the pecking order and would be the fairest way.

    Fury getting a shot at Wilder before Whyte, Brazeale etc. Shouldn't really have happened. Fury has no belts and is coming off a suspension for peds. If i was the mandatory for Wilder I would be a peeved. I guess money talks.
     
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  7. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearn already said that if Usyk keeps winning, the plan for him is to 1st fight Bellew, 2nd fight a HW and mentioned Whyte as possible opponent then for his third fight with Matchroom look to put him against AJ.

    Considering Povetkin and Ortiz have failed in their title shots. Whyte and Miller have the most impressive winning streaks and are the two most deserving of a title shot in the division.
     
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  8. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    this
     
  9. Beez

    Beez Active Member Full Member

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    Miller still has alot of work to do in my opinion yes he is winning... but he isnt fighting anywhere near the level as the others have been prepared to do.

    The contenders to me are clearly - Whyte first then Ortiz, Povetkin, Parker, Breazele and then maybe miller is he fights someone of note.

    When you look at it the HW contenders are really not that deep
     
  10. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Although Povetkin and Ortiz are better fighters than Miller in my opinion they have to beat one of the other top guys in Whyte, Miller, Parker, or each other before they deserve another shot at the title again

    I rate Milller's win streak of Kassi, Washington, Wach, Duhaupas and Adamek to be better that Breazeale's of Ugonoh and Molina. MIller vs Breazeale would be a fight to establish who is the second best American HW and one that I would heavily favour Miller in.
     
  11. Beez

    Beez Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed... and that’s why I personally think if we can’t get the AJ and Wilder fight and AJ is to fight a contender Whytes the only real option.

    Whether we are ready for it or not there isn’t much choice and Whyte has done what he has needed to do.

    Ortiz Povetkin would be great too... Miller/breakele good shout
     
  12. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Miller doesn't get a lot of respect here, but the guy is 6-4, 300+ pounds, he's extremely strong, so far he has shown good stamina, and he throws a lot of punches. Until somebody hurts him and makes him less aggressive or until he gets fatigued in a fight, I'm going to consider him a tough fight for anybody.

    He doesn't look like the boxers people are used to seeing, but maybe he is the new prototype? Maybe he just hasn't fought the right person yet, but unless he tires or somebody can hurt him and get his respect, what do you do with a 300+ pound man who keeps coming forward throwing a lot of punches?
     
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  13. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wait so you’re complaining that top fighters would have to fight other top fighters before getting a shot at the champion?

    So you would rather have all top fighters face complete cans all the way up to their shot at AJ?

    I’ve read some dumb posts on here but seeing someone actually say they don’t want to see top fighters matched against each other is bizarre.
     
  14. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Holy **** is that you Todd?!? I missed you bro. Still torching crosses and laminating you’re your NRA certification renewals?

    Usyk should do well against the smaller HWs but after Parker sized competition it gets sketchy for him. How do you see fights with three bosses going (Fury/Wilder/josh)