Eddie states his split terms

Do you know how much PPVs did Joshua - Molina fight sell in UK? Because Wilder wouldn't sell even 3k PPV's against opponent like Molina in USA

 

Because with both of them everything is possible for a price. Have you thought why he said that? Almost everything that comes out of their respective mouths is a negotiating ploy of some sort.

He is saying that for Team AJ, time is on their side. They make more money if the fight builds. They have lots of other lucrative avenues to pursue, at less risk, all the while AJ is improving as a boxer and athlete.

For Team Wilder time is not on their side. They have a guy who may start to lose his edge. They don't have the same lucrative options. It's in their interests to make the fight now.

So Barry Hearn's point is that there's no reason to pursue the Wilder fight. Its risky, negotiation is a pain and the longer they wait the more they make off it anyway and the safer it gets. However, the risk/reward equation would change if Team Wilder reduced their demands...

 

Do you mean ‘fair’?

If that’s what you mean then where exactly did I say a flat fee is fair if he beats fury? Your reading comprehension and spelling are not great for someone calling other people thick. Saying he deserves 60/40 on the split should he beat fury is delusional.

 

Funny thing is I’m pretty unbiased and can use reasoning when it comes to situations in boxing, mainly because I’m not emotionally invested. You on the other hand clearly hate Joshua and Hearn and can’t rationally look at any situation that involves them, I think it’s great that you’re an emotional guy, too many guys these days are afraid to show their emotions, but it’s ironic when you start accusing other people of painting their own narrative & being bias. Maybe calm down just a bit & you’d be better at analysing situations regarding Joshua/Hearn.

 

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It is encouraging that Eddie Sperm admits AJ is no longer in a position to set the terms for any future fight with the Wilder-Fury winner. Asd he says, the split will now entirely depend on the revenue the Wilder-Fury fight generates compared to AJ's past performance and potential.

Personally I believe this fight will see a victorious Wilder having a clear claim to an at least 50-50 spilt. A victorious Fury will have an even stronger claim for a favourably uneven split as he will have all the merits of Wilder plus a far superior record, stronger UK fan-base and the backing of a major UK broadcaster.

 

Here are his PPV numbers, 450K for Molina. Unconfirmed reports say he did 1.1 mill for Povetkin too.

12 December 2015: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte – 420,000
9 April 2016: Anthony Joshua vs. Charles Martin – 500,000
25 June 2016: Anthony Joshua vs. Dominic Breazeale – 512,000
10 December 2016: Anthony Joshua vs. Éric Molina – 450,000
29 April 2017: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko – 1,532,000
28 October 2017 – Anthony Joshua vs. Carlos Takam – 887,000
31 March 2018: Anthony Joshua vs. Joseph Parker – 1,457,000

 

What is your opinion on the fact AJ's highest grossing fight had roughly 400,000 less US viewers than Fury's highest? Would you say this hinder AJ's negotiating power or is it down to another reason? For example, AJ's fight was less significant in boxing terms.

 

Yet they probably earned the same rights fee from the U.S broadcaster so the viewing figures dont really matter it’s all about the $ and this fight will not be PPV in U.S it will be DAZN who will pay PPV guaranteed money..

 

If viewing figures are not relevant and only revenue is, that will seriously hurt AJ's negotiating power. As we know, much of his "power" comes from ticket sales, even though the overall gross from the gate is much smaller than a US gate.

So we can agree that if Wilder-Fury generates more revenue than AJ's recent fights, AJ will deserve a lesser split than 50-50. In that case, please tweet Eddie Sperm your feelings on the subject. He seems to think all Brit casuals are of his illogical opinion that AJ deserves at least 60-40, people like you can help educate him.

 

American's and Wilder dick huggers will have you believe Wilder is the A side just like the earth is flat.

No, just No.

Besides, I'm so bored of Wilder/Haymon/Finkel/USA antics that if the fight doesn't happen WHO CARES!!

Plenty more fights to watch, and Joshua still gonna be rolling in more money and success.

Wilder and Ortiz can continue to gather dust.

 

Wladimir Klitshcko gave David Haye 50/50.

I don't think he should have, but he did, and he made a career high payday from it too. And a legacy enhancing fight. Take the smaller paycheck to enhance your eternal legacy. Seems like a deal that would be obvious if we lived in an ideal world.

 

So you think they are going to pull more than $10m gate? As AJ pulled £7m gates

 

All these years anybody fighting the likes of Floyd or Canelo or any other really big seller has had to put up and shut up, its the way of the world, its just the way it is, there is an A side and a B side and until you outdo the A side you are the B side. But now its a none American A side and the American is actually the B side its all out of the window, the rules have all changed, its not longer the way of the world, its no longer just the way it is.

Wilder accept your the B side, Accept that lowball offer of more than youve ever ever earnt, try to win the belts and if you get them you may actually become that A side that you and your goon managers are trying to tell us you already are.

 

I wouldnt even bother. Where Joshuas argument is based on facts and figures he has been generating for years now Wilders fans are arguing their side based on speculation and the future, its all he would do this he would generate that. Its all woulds and coulds because there has never been any is or was yet. And after 40 fights and at 33 years of age it really should of happened by now if it was ever guna happen.

For Deontay Wilder the Joshua fight is the door, the door to becoming this highly paid superstar, all he has to do is take the fight and beat the fighter. But Deontay wants the reward before hes got the glory. Typical American B side who cant accept hes a B side against a none American. I watched a Youtube Boxing guy video the other day and he couldnt accept ex Pro American Boxers rating Joshua above Wilder, not because of the Boxing skills but becaue Wilder was a fellow American so its not right that these ex Pro Americans think a Brit is better than an American. If thats their thinking there is no hope for people being realistic.