Whyte v Ortiz December 22nd?

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  1. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    Pudding Whyte never a PPV fighter and neither are Ortiz, Breazeale, Dull Boy, Chuck Martin or Jennings yet some have already had a slice of AJ PPV Pie.

    Now we have Toe looking after Dull Boy and Eh Day still ejaculating over the previous undercard fight, it can only be Eh Day handing out a xmas PPV present for the PPV Mugs - Pudding Whyte v Dull Boy Pakora 2
     
  2. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    I seen Sky Sports have planted the Kownacki seed.
     
  4. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I really hope it isn't Kownacki, it proves nothing. The lowest standard opponent I want Whyte up against is Breazeale.
     
  5. Scissors

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    Kownacki is arguably better.
     
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    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Finally checked this out. He wasn't on ***** street like you first said. He did get rocked and stumbled a little, then that was basically it. He smothered Firtha and then did take more flush shots but wasn't rocked by any of those ones.

    In fact this shot landed in a similar fashion to the ones that put him down; walking straight onto a right hand. Lucky Peter tidied up his movement otherwise Wlad would have definitely iced him.
     
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  7. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    Kownacki against Whyte is a 50/50 imo. I rate Kownacki higher than Breazeale whom would get dealt with comfortably by Whyte. Kownacki vs Whyte is mouthwatering, it would be a great opportunity for Whyte to really showcase himself in front of the yanks, win or lose. Kownacki has quite a following and Whyte would definitely gain a few new fans with his style.
     
  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not from what I've seen. Kownacki maybe durable but the guy has no defence what so ever and is in such poor physical condition there is only a certain level he can reach with these limitations and I reckon he has already overachieved it.

    Whyte vs Kownacki would be just as brutal and one sided as Browne fight.
     
  9. Twentyman

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    Whyte is hardly Mayweather with his defence either. Kownacki is actually a better ‘boxer’ than Whyte.
     
  10. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I strongly disagree with Kownacki being a better "boxer" than Whyte, I would say from a technical abilities side Kownkaci is the worst out of the ranked WBC HWs. I mean Kiladze out boxed Kownacki for the first 2 rounds, looking the by far the sharper, more cleaner and accurate puncher of the two before Kownacki's toughness and power made the difference.

    I just don't see a guy who lost numerous rounds to the likes of Kiladze and Martin as a 50/50 fight against Whyte. Whyte having the more variety of punches, much better jab, better hook, better foot work and head movement. You could also make a case for Whyte being one of the best body punchers at HW.
     
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  11. Infern0121

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    Funny how apparently Charles Martin is a bum and a joke who AJ won the IBF from but when it comes to kawasaki going life and death with him it's a really good win
     
  12. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    Charles Martin is a joke
     
  13. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    He stopped Kiladze. I was baffled with the scorecards against Martin. Martin won a couple of rounds, 3 at the most.

    You massively overrate Whyte as a boxer imo. He’s a very tough opponent, definitely more of a fighter than a boxer. Hearn has done a terrific job in building him up and convincing people he’s absolute top notch.
     
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    For 7 rounds Martin got smashed by Kownacki and was out on his feet a few times. Credit to Martin for not bottling out again and showing a bit of heart by lasting the 10 rounds.
     
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  15. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    Nobody has said it was a good win. NOBODY.