Tyson Fury has failed 3 drug tests which is more than Povetkin and Ortiz but gets no abuse.

He - rightly - gets quite a lot of abuse. Perhaps less than he ought to, though.

 

How about Guillermo Jones and James Toney? They both got busted 3 times too, right?!
And with lesser quality testing to boot.

 

As far as I'm aware has failed two tests not three. One for a non PED during a period of inactivity. What was the third?

 

An opaque test, a positive test for cocaine and a failure to give a sample. Sure, he can be labelled a PED cheat. There's also an argument to suggest he's not.

As I've said previously. Until the organisation's sort out their systems and establish themselves are fair and competent, the opinions of fans can be taken with a pinch of salt either way. UKAD are neither fair, nor competent.

 

Failure to provide a test when requested is tantamount to a positive test.

 

Oh, man, I remember the days of not long ago where "any additional drug testing is invasive, unnecessary, and cowardly. No testing beyond the local commission!" That literally was the vocal majority on this forum. Was pathetic. Glad to see people slowly waking up. You pop, you serve the time (unless, of course, you are Tyson Fury).

 

This.

When Floyd was calling for random testing for the pacman fight there were plenty who seemed to think this was unnecessary and the commission testing was more than enough.

 

Although I understand your logic and the general perception of failure to provide a sample unfortunately he has not failed a third drug test because no test was conducted. The correct terminology is he has failed two drug tests and also been charged with failing to provide a sample, a charge that was later dropped and so therefore should not be associated with any wrongdoing.

Similarly, if you fail to provide a breath test if you are stopped by the police while driving you are not charged with drink driving but with failure to proved a breath test.

 

It's true there's a separate charge laid down in statute, 2.3 on WADA code I think. It's also true that if you fail to provide a breath test you can be banned and imprisoned for 6 months so the law recognises the principle of failure to comply with verification being tantamount to failing verification.

In Fury's case the charge was dropped as a result of legal horse trading from Fury's very expensive legal team who exploited weaknesses in UKAD's lamentable handling of his case together with talk of damages in the tens of millions for Fury's future potential earnings. So you're quite right, the final settlement traded off that charge, but that doesn't negate the fact that he refused to provide a sample and for anyone without his crack legal team that would be the third failure mentioned above.

 

If you look into the facts of the case he threw the UKAD team out of the gym when they charged him with failing a test 16 months AFTER being told he would not be charged with any offence. UKAD accepted the extrenuating circumstances and therefore dropped the charge. It was nothing to do with crack legal teams or plea bargaining it was simply the right thing to do.

 

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this point. That settlement came after Fury's legal team told UKAD they were preparing to sue for tens of millions that Fury would otherwise earn with the titles. UKAD wanted to pursue the case but went to HM Treasury who told them that they wouldn't cover any of it and UKAD were left facing potential bankruptcy. At that point they reassessed their options and the eventual settlement was the result.

Leave aside how the case was handled for a second. Do you think Fury took PEDS?

 

Precisely, the settlement was over the the elevated levels of Nandrolone. The failed test was not part of this settlement as the charge was dropped and no further action was taken. The reason it was dropped is because UKAD accepted that Fury acted under duress of their own handling of the case. When I have more time I will dig up documentary evidence that supports my points but for now will have to disagree around some of the finer details of this case.

 

When answering this question I like to assess the available facts rather than fabricating possibilities. The facts state that the urine sample showed elevated levels of Nandrolone. The B samples and blood samples were both clear. All of the tests prior to and after this finding have tested negative. Therefore we can only conclude that they probably did not knowingly consume Nandrolone or do so to deliberately improve performance but rather it was the result of contaminated supplements or contaminated meat. Regardless of this it is the athletes responsibility to check there food source and supplements are clean and in that regard they are guilty of a doping offence.

With regards to the positive cocaine he has admitted to cocaine use.