Hardest hitter: Gennady or Hagler ?

so thats fine then, there careers were unable to cross. If 3G had stepped up sooner he might have caught Pirog uninjured.

no he could have had him if he wanted to step up. He chose not to until 2014.

cotto was out of the runnings after canelo, he wasnt an option. And before that he wasnt in the division until 2014 the time 3G was becoming relevant at world level.

 

How can you repeat this untruth again with no evidence?

From 2011-2013 Golovkin was trying to get the best fighters he could, he formally requested Sturm and signed to fight Pirog.

 

yet the first to happen for 3g was lemmy. in 2015. meainwhile pirog trumped 3gs best win several years before 3g did it in jacobs, and sturm...well i've admitted he was a dodgy "german".

i'm looking at what happened. pirog happened with jacobs long time before 3g hgappened with lemmy and jacobs.

 

It's fine to look at what happened but you can't say stuff like:

"no he could have had him if he wanted to step up. He chose not to until 2014."

"He could have made the fights with cotto, sturm etc if he'd wanted them"

Here's the truth:

Golovkin made a massive mistake choosing Universum as his promoter. He wanted those fights but UNIVERSUM blocked him. That's why Pirog, who had a decent promoter, got those fights, while Golovkin was left out. As soon as he got away from Universum in 2014 he starting getting better fights because his own promoter wasn't blocking him.

 

Nah man, Golovkin was content in fighting nobodies and being completely unknown to the vast majority of the fanbase, that was his dream all along. Those interviews he gave with Abel about how unhappy he is with the promoter? Pff nonsense! He loved Universum as they allowed him to fight more bums!

 

thats when he won a world title, ok. So, you think he spent a decade before that saying "heyho i dont mind" like the prostitute in The Man with Two Brains.

 

To add to Kiwi's point though, even after the split with Universum, he was ducked, for a long time by pretty much all the top middleweights. Sturm wanted none of it, Martinez didn't, heck Geale dropped his title to duck him, and you know it's bad when a guy of Geale's calibre drops a belt in order to avoid facing you.

Things started picking up for GGG, but honestly, only recently he's been put into a position where he doesn't have to chase fights, they're coming to him now. Unfortunately it's quite late into his career this happened.

 

Roberto Duran said Haglers power was in his right hand, that his left was dead. GGG may hit harder , but I'd take Marvin to wear him out prime for prime. I mean geez, Mugabi hit harder than Marvin, where'd that get him?