My p4p list #30-21

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  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    30. Benny Leonard

    What he could’ve done to rank higher:
    1. Retired after Sarko vs Leonard

    2. Generally have less losses to inferior fighters
    Most impressive feats:

    -General domination of division

    29. Charley Burley

    What he could’ve done to rank higher:
    1. Beaten Ezzard Charles

    2. Generally have less losses to inferior fighters
    Most impressive feats:

    -Being such a great contender that he was dodged by Sugar Ray Robinson and Joey Maxim

    -Beating Archie Moore

    -Beating Jimmy Bivins

    28. George Foreman

    What he could’ve done to rank higher:
    1. Beaten Ali

    2. Had first retirement after Lyle vs Foreman

    3. Beaten either Holyfield or Morrison

    4. Retired after Moorer vs Foreman
    Most impressive feats:

    -Oldest heavyweight champion ever, beat lineal, IBF and WBA champ Michael Moorer at the age of 45. Made 3 title defenses

    -Total domination of Joe Frazier and Ken Norton

    -Defeat of other top contenders in 80s-90s (Cooney, Ellis, Cooper)

    27. Stanley Ketchel

    What he could’ve done to rank higher:
    1. Beaten Johnson or Langford

    2. Generally have less losses to inferior fighters
    Most impressive feats:

    -Knocking Jack Johnson down

    -Record of 49 wins (46 KOs) and 5 losses

    26. Gerald McClellan

    What he could’ve done to rank higher:
    1. Retired after Jackson vs McClellan 2

    2. Not lose to Ralph Ward and Dennis Milton
    Most impressive feats:

    -Beat Julian Jackson twice, once by first round knockout

    -Beat John Mugabi

    -General domination of division

    25. Manny Pacquiao

    What he could’ve done to rank higher:

    1. Beaten Floyd Mayweather (which could happen in the future)

    2. Beaten Marquez a majority of the time

    3. Generally have less losses to inferior fighters
    Most impressive feats:

    -8 division champion

    24. Battling Nelson

    What he could’ve done to rank higher:

    1. Beaten Al Wolgast

    2. Beaten Gans in the first fight

    3. Generally have less losses to inferior fighters

    Most impressive feats:

    -Beating Joe Gans twice, both by knockout

    -Beating Terry McGovern, by knockout

    -Giving Al Wolgast brain damage

    -Incredible conditioning and training

    23. Roy Jones Jr (I ****ed up on 41-30 didn't mean to put him there)

    What he could’ve done to rank higher:
    1. Retired after Ruiz vs Jones

    2. Convincingly beaten Tarver

    3. Beaten Hopkins a majority of the time

    4. Beaten Calzaghe
    Most impressive feats:

    -Beating John Ruiz

    -Beating Bernard Hopkins

    -Beating James Toney

    22. Tommy Hearns

    What he could’ve done to rank higher:
    1. Beaten Sugar Ray Leonard

    2. Beaten Marvin Hagler

    3. Retired after Hearns be Leonard 2
    Most impressive feats:

    -Absolute destruction of Roberto Duran

    -Fighting Leonard to a draw, which many believe Hearns won

    21. Jake LaMotta

    What he could’ve done to rank higher:
    1. Beaten Robinson a majority of the time

    2. Retired after Robinson vs LaMotta 5

    3. Generally have less losses to inferior fighters
    Most impressive feats:

    -Dethroning a prime Sugar Ray Robinson
     
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  2. The Malibu Mauler

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    Very interesting list, and good reasoning
     
  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I won’t critique your list to much because you at least have the stones to put one out there...

    But Benny Leonard? The best Leonard to ever put on a pair of gloves?
     
  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think you made a mistake with Burley. He actually did beat Moore!
     
  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Ray Leonard > Benny Leonard imo. Better competition, more wins against best competition, and less losses against inferior fighters
     
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  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    **** really? My bad
     
  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Honestly it doesn't change his rank, but it does reinforce it

    Surprised they never rematched. Between Burley and Charles, I'm starting to think that Moore was overrated.
     
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  8. PhillyPhan69

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    If you like to think so. I just see Benny as a clear top 10 ATG and Ray just outside the top 10. But either way 30 seems a tad to low.
     
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  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Its good that my list doesn't agree at least, I'd like to think I have unique opinions

    Really though, it would've helped him to have a name on his resume that I at least recognized, much less a win that I recognized
     
  10. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow. ll the final paragraph alone tells all that is needed to know of your depth of knowledge
     
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