Luis Ortiz vs Travis Kauffman on Fury Wilder undercard

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  1. Manfred

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    You must have thought that I wasn't gonna look that up. It seems that Joyce has called just about everybody and no one really takes him seriously. The general consensus is that Ortiz would knock him out. Fighting Kauffman is no different than fighting washed up Mansour. Actually it's just a stay busy fight for Ortiz in case Whyte wants to back up his big mouth. Ortiz is a feared man and it's no secret. By the way nobody you named is a top heavyweight.
     
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    Even though Joshua was the champion, I think that the real reason that Wlad fought him was because he felt that he had a better chance of winning with him than Ortiz. In his mind, he was taking the easier fight. If Ortiz was the champion he still would have chose to fight Joshua.
     
  3. Big Dosser

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    Ortiz ducked Whyte for this dosser? Disgraceful
     
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    Well, should have been fighting Whyte but he didn't want that smoke.

    So in turns what he should be doing is fighting Joyce really (who as far as I can tell is the only person calling him out with intent). My feeling is that he's being kept ticking over probably for a Wilder rematch. Which is fine as he almost had Wilder out of there - with a less patient ref maybe he would have - but it's another delay to the AJ fight.
     
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    Lol Mystic Manfred your ability to read fighters minds is impressive, you know what boxers would choose to do better than they do.

    I love how you turn your opinion into fact and expect people to believe you.
     
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    Manfred has an uncanny ability to present his personal opinion as scientific fact.
     
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    Ortiz is ducking Joyce to fight another penguin instead, on the same card. Allen, Martz, Hanks, Cojanu, Kauffman, Ortiz is making a career of being underwhelming these days, hes finished and up retirement lane. Just waiting for that last pension check.
     
  8. Geo1122

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    That’s complete guess work, based on, I don’t know. Joshua was a legacy fight. Two Olympic gold medalist, master against apprentice. There was huge money involved and with that fight there was two belts on the line.

    There’s a much stronger argument as to why Ortiz didn’t wait to fight Joshua, but instead chose Wilder.....
     
  9. Manfred

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    Whoa, never said I was stating facts just insight. I do know fear when I see it though.
     
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    So are you saying that Ortiz is ducking bums?
     
  11. Manfred

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    You think Ortiz is old now, if he waited on Joshua to call he would have grey hair between his toes. Now like I said, can understand why Wlad fought Joshua but I think that if the tables were turned where Ortiz had the belts, Wlad would have still chose to fight Joshua.
     
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    If you consider the Olmpic silver medalist Joyce and Whyte, who is WBC #1 above Ortiz as bums, i hate to think what you think of poor old Luis as he lines up his next clearly outclassed low level journeyman opponent.
     
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    Yeah thats the "real" reason

    Not the 30 million payday and shot at 2 world titles

    Lol you wilder fanboys are derranged
     
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    Yeah because Wlad historically has had issues with slow flat footed short guys

    Ortiz is perfect jab jab grab then ko when he gets tired fodder.

    It's like you idiots don't even think about what you write. Ortiz would be on the outside eating jabs, looking for a counter that never comes because Wlad doesn't give them away, and after 6-7 rounds he'd gas out just like he did vs wilder and get taken out

    The only difference is he wouldn't be able to out jab klitschko like he did no-skills wilder.
     
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    LOl this will get him winner of Wilder v Fury guaranteed.still despite being nearly 50yr old and on blood pressure meds he’s still a very capable boxer who had Wilder rocked and almost beaten.