The difference between Wilders 50 Mill and Joshuas 15 mill offers.

Too easy. I don't give a **** about internet point scoring, but on this occasion are you going to admit you are incorrect?

Inb4;

"He didn't say that."

"Personally, my advice was let's leave it two years".

This content is protected

This content is protected

 

You're a moron. See my post above and get back to me.

Inb4 - "He didn't say that", when he clearly, unequivocally does.

See, that's the thing I have great attention to detail, you don't or choose to ignore it.

 

So, now I've given you two evidence of what Hearn Sr advises and advised AJ and Eddie to do, are you now going to admit to being incorrect? Or try and squirm and weasel your way out this and make me tie you up in knots again?

I'm almost certain you're going to try and spin this as "that's just what Barry advised, AJ and Eddie did differently".

To which my answer is; which ACTIONS followed (not words by Eddie).
Oh that's right, AJ not fighting Wilder, which may, JUST MAY point to Barry's advice being taken.

 

Yeah these idiots are too easy to slay. Even talking about that 15 million dollar offer is criminal since it was negotiating in bad faith since Wilder only agreed IF the fight was next. The fight was not next, PEDvetkin was being lined up to fight AJ next.

Nobody has an obligation to continue playing games with cowardly con men like Eddie and Barry Hearns. They may scoff at 50/50 now but they will come around and we'll finally get the fight. Whenever AJ feels he's ready, so be it.

50 million counter offer to the original 12 million criminal low ball offer came with a term sheet not a contract. Since the terms were rejected there is no contract. The point being, AJ is probably the biggest ducker in boxing history and not just talking about his size.

You have to be an extreme hater or delusional Hearns fanboy to think Al Haymon and Showtime can't come up with the money for a huge fight like this. The same folks that handle Mayweather's big fights. This is why they are in boxing, for these big paydays. Easiest fight to sell to casuals as well.

 

So you will have noted that Barry prefaces his assessment with

'I said to AJ my honest opinion'

and

'Personally, my advice was'

The interviewer even makes the point explicit in his question:

'So if it's your personal preference you would choose'

Now what I was looking for was Barry saying what you claimed he said. Namely, that

 

lol, ok. Commitment bias is a powerful thing.

You are henceforth known as Holler the Blunderer.

 

I'm guessing by your shifting to an attack on me rather than my argument that means you can't actually substantiate your claim?

 

I've addressed your argument and provided recent video evidence to refute it. Evidence which is unequivocal and defining (x2), yet you're still attempting to argue that said evidence doesn't exist or is not to your liking.

You stated that you would admit you were incorrect if I provided it, timestamped - I did.

 

The problem here is, Wilder's fans do not do well with logic or logical debates. They will change the subject, deflect, quote or misquote articles and they won't answer straight questions at all hahah. It's like debating with a Canelo fan. A 50 million dollar fight should have a contract, venue, date, etc. but Wilder and his team only put it out there to save face because they really did not want the fight at all. You don't turn down 15-20 million, to go and fight someone else for 2 million do you? Especially when the smaller fight doesn't give you any belts, and the bigger fight is unification and more money.

 

That's the thing with AJ fans, even when you provide clear and current evidence on video from the founder of Matchroom saying that Wilder didn't figure in AJ's plan for at least two years, they still try and claim Wilder ducked.

 

I believe Hearn's initial offer was 10-12 mil $ flat fee. Wilder turned it down and he will make less than that against Fury.
Go figure.

 

Well its actually 12.5 million vs 50 million offers.

The 15 Million wasn't an offer it was a actual contract that team wilder agreed to with the added terms.

Wilders 50 million was a counter offer to the 12.5 WEEKS later with still no details weeks after that , up until Hearn waited a month later with no cooperation from team Wilder so nothing was gained up until an actual contract of 15 million .

Because Wilder did not want the fight if he could not get a lot of money ( out pricing ) and a rematch clause. That's why hes fighting fury now.

The difference is team wilder isn't in a position to dictate a contract in the first place no matter what they are offering and team Joshua is.

 

Hey idiot, let me break it down for you. When a fighter (AJ) sends another fighter several contracts (Wilder) and fighter B (Wilder) refuses to fight, then fighter B is ducking. Especially when fighter B can make more in one fight than he has made his entire career. Also you just proved my point about Wilder fans and not seeing logic.

 

Ah, of course, I see, contractual exchanges between heavyweight boxing managers and the associated legal, financial and idiosyncratic issues around them are simple, straightforward exchanges and easy to discern.

No room to obfuscate, misrepresent, play for time, mislead or anything else other than binary yes/no answers from all parties. Cool, glad you've cleared that up for me.

PS - Have you watched the timestamped video I posted where Barry lays out that AJ wouldn't fight Wilder for two years on his advice?