Lewis is the greatest of all time

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  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali thought he himself was the greatest, and said marciano was second

    George foreman said that the greatest of all time was joe louis, then marciano and jack johnson
     
  2. archdeacon99

    archdeacon99 Member Full Member

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    But on the Lewis Tyson broadcast Foreman said that Lewis is no don't about it the greatest of all time.
     
  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, if Big George said it, then it must be true! Thanks! I am off to change my rankings
     
  4. mcvey

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    Next to Ali, I think he presents the most stylistic problems to the other champions.
     
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    Tyson is a year younger than Lewis.
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Definitely ONE of the greatest of all time.


    Shame that he never got the chance to beat Riddick Bowe.
     
  7. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While I think the point in time at which Lewis fought Holyfield and Tyson should be taken into consideration when rating Lewis, I'm not sure what significance your breakdown does for that consideration.

    I mean, I should imagine Holmes and Foreman were not Holyfield's (or Tyson's, re Holmes) contemporaries - what is the impact on Holyfield's rating? Perhaps more relevantly, is Bowe not the "exact" contemporary of Holyfield then?

    If this type of analysis carries some additional meaning then I guess we'd also need to apply it to and reevaluate the impact it has on Ali (debut 1960); Frazier (debut: 1965); Norton (1967) and Foreman (debut: 1969). Clearly not "exact" contemporaries, by your definition. Nonetheless, they are riveted together in heavyweight boxing history and support each other's legacies, in one way or another.

    How then does this line of thinking impact one's perspective on the '70s era'?

    I'm sure we could find other examples, from various eras, with similar disparate timeframes, between the individual pro careers of competing boxers, previously considered the peers of one and other. I'm just not sure what this, in itself, actually counts for.
     
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  8. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    which means pretty much nothing in this case.
     
  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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  10. PhillyPhan69

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    Lol if Ali and Marciano are both unbeatable who on earth would win between them? This just got a lot harder!
     
  11. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    God would strike down the arena as soon as the bell rang

    Either that or they tie, but i like the former more
     
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  12. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    I know a certain sparring story about Lewis that makes me hesitant to say he is H2H best.
     
  13. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    I know of a certain 2 losses to average fighters, best wins coming from shot fighters, tying with a past prime fighter, and dodging other fighters in their prime that would make me hesitant to put Lewis in my top 5 h2h
     
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  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll give him top ten at the most. But, his two dec wins over a well past prime Holyfield ( Same Holyfield that was stopped by a blown up natural middle Toney, a few yrs after their fight) the 1st fight Holyfield won in some minds, his stoppage losses in his prime to two fighters that were good, but nothing special in Rahman and McCall . Most of his biggest wins were against fighters clearly pass prime, Like Tua, Mercer, Bruno, and Tyson . He was the best of his era. And physically would be a threat to any heavy because of his size. But his career like Mayweather jr has a lot of question marks... But to his credit, he did attempt to fight the best available, unlike Mayweather jr at lightweight through welter.
     
  15. Big Ukrainian

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    LOL. Maybe Foreman said it on TV some time ago, but on Twitter he ranks few guys ahead of Lennox.