HBO World Championship Boxing: Daniel Jacobs vs. Sergey Vyacheslavovich Derevyanchenko RBR

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  1. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You were talking about Lemieux, but I don't care if Jacobs would be less dominant against Lemeiux than Golovkin and Saunders were. I was impressed with BJ against Lemieux sure, but I don't think Lemieux has a chance against the elite middleweights and he's not a measuring stick to see how the elite who fought him would do against each other. You're overrating Lemieux if you use him as a hypothetical opponent so much :)
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He did hurt him, several times. Jacobs' defense was just too on point for him to adequately follow up. Why can't you process that yourself? It's very obvious. Sergey's power is clearly above average, if it wasn't Danny would have thrown down like he did against Sulecki, but he didn't, he played it safe for the majority of the fight. Which is kind of a huge glaring red light that indicates when someone respects their opponents punching power.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He never looked all that gassed to me, you were just momentarily hypnotized by RJJ propaganda.
     
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  4. DirtyOldTown

    DirtyOldTown Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jacobs is booooooring to watch.
     
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  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Sky commentary are a right bunch of clowns, they even praise those "eye catching" shots that Jacobs didn't even land. The fight was much closer than those cretins tried telling us all it was.
     
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  6. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    When FOTY conversation comes up this will take some beating. Clash of styles, clash within a stable, clash of sparring partners, clash of trainer and assistant, all coming together to form a classic contest. Immense respect for both men.

    A lot of the rounds were very close and much depends on what you value in a fight. I thought Jacobs outboxed him overall, but give Sergey a lot of credit for the aggression and workrate he brought from 1-12.

    I thought the 115-113 Jacobs card sounded right at the end. I don't score myself but from a quick look through the cards posted here I think PinoyProdigy probably saw the same fight I did:

    But what a fight!
     
  7. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Wow really?

    Just shows how subjective this sport can be. I thought that fight was gripping from start to finish!
     
  8. DirtyOldTown

    DirtyOldTown Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That clown Spencer Oliver had Jacobs 7 rounds up at one point.

    Derevyanchenko beat the life out of Jacobs at times, Jacobs returns one single shot and suddenly it's a "classy performance" from Jacobs. Absolute jokers.
     
  9. Jacob Tanswell

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    SD trainer urgency showed Jacobs was in control for most of fight. Not sure it was SD, had Jacobs winning by 3/4 rounds
     
  10. Amazing one

    Amazing one Active Member Full Member

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    Good fight. I had Jacobs winning it, good performance against a high caliber opponent. I wouldn't mind seeing them do it again.
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can we take another look at round 4? I see several cards that had Jacobs winning that round but I just don't see how Jacobs won that. Derevyanchenko controlled that round with the jab, backed Daniel up several times. Several of Jacobs' jabs were short or blocked by Derevyanchenko. Derevyanchenko landed a nice one-two with about a minute left, then a short right hand when they were about to clinch. Didn't like Jacobs' body language in this round. Derevyanchenko's jabs in round 4 were hard and were really getting to Jacobs. What did Jacobs really do this round to win it? A couple times he tried to counter Derevyanchenko to even up the exchanges after Derevyanchenko finished punching, then those couple punches towards the end by Jacobs as Derevyanchenko was dipping down didn't seem to land that clean.

    Just seemed to me that Derevyanchenko landed by far the cleaner punches in that 4th round, was the ring general, Jacobs seemed to be playing catch up the entire round. Did anyone give Derevyanchenko the 4th?
     
  12. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    I thought i was Spencer Fearon?

    Anyway, understood where he was coming from. A lot depend on what you value in a performance.
     
  13. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The knockdown won Jacobs the fight in many ways. I think he won it by two rounds but fair play to both guys, it is not easy having a good solid fight against a training partner. Often they are snooze fests as both guys no eachother so well. I would be interested if Derevyanchenko could make 154 as he could be a complete beast down there. Credit to both guys and I think middleweight is hotting up right now.
     
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  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was a great fight and both guys fought well. It isn't easy fighting a training partner who sparred each other over 300 rounds apparently. The knockdown was definitely a big key for Jacobs. Jacobs was outworked though, I don't really have a problem with him winning but many of those rounds were debatable. Jacobs landed some quality shots in some of the close rounds but there were several times thoughout the fight that he stumbled around or was put off balance by punches. One thing that was apparent is that Derevyanchenko did not suffer from much of a hand speed disadvantage. I mean Jacobs had a ridiculous reach advantage which allowed him to be rangy while "running" and setting up counter shots. I just came away from that fight impressed by Derevyanchenko. How he came on in those late round was eye opening. Jacobs looked more tired as that fight wore on and early on the key for Jacobs from RJJ was get Derevyanchenko into the late rounds. Well that turned out to not be the case, Derevyanchenko might have been breathing with his mouth opened but it was Jacobs who was more visibly fatigued by the end. Not only that but RJJ seemed to miss a moment where Derevyanchenko landed a nice left hook (it may have been in the 12th) and he kept saying Derevyanchenko needed to throw the left hook. I was like Roy he just landed one lmao.

    But yeah I don't think Jacobs wants any part of a Derevyanchenko rematch. Great fight though nonetheless.
     
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  15. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    A couple of weeks ago we have a conversation about scorecards. I insist, pinoy cards are the best and more consitent cards in this forum.
     
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