Lewis is the greatest of all time

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    It's very easy to say he wasnt much AFTER Lewis blew him away.I didnt see much about that BEFORE he fought Lewis. I proved the guys I mentioned where ranked when and where I said they were,not being able to refute that and not being capable of admitting they were wrong,the"Monday Morning Quarterbacks " are now reduced to saying"well I don't think he should have been ranked there.lol" The ring leader in the Lewis fought smaller men gang cant say that about 6'7"250lbs Grant, so he scratches around for other negative comments. Does he ever do anything else?
    To employ an American euphemism.
    What a crock of ****!
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nothing humble about my opinion. I am a jerk.

    Your post is nonsense. For one thing, McCall did not legitimately stop Lewis. He knocked him down, Lewis was up at five and ready to to go, the ref stopped it, the color crew went nuts in disbelief, and then Don King jumped in the ring to congratulate his new champ. I watched it live and couldn't believe what I was seeing.

    Rahmen got a good punch. I won't take anything away from him.

    So you are saying that a man who was down twice in his career having fought McCallX2, RahmenX2, HolyfieldX2, Mercer, Bruno, Mason, Briggs, Grant, Golota, Tua, Tyson, Vitklit, Ruddock, and Morrison had a bad chin? Really?

    Friend, that is absurd. He got caught a couple of times. Once it was a legit knockout, once it was a decent punch and he suffered a screwjob. He avenged both and the rest couldn't touch him.

    Good chin. A-/B+.
     
  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Great post.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I'd say the best Golota was better than Grant.
     
  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Grant won their fight, though.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The guy that was beating up Bowe until he lost it.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Braddock beat Baer, was he a better fighter?
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm not trying to convince you here . lol
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't hold him in high regard.
     
  10. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This can't be left untouched.

    An Old Norton? What was Holyfield at the time Lewis fought him? White Dope Cooney?

    Holmes has: Norton, Shavers, Mercer, Witherspoon, Weaver, Smith, Williams, Cooney, Berbick, Spinks. Half of which are bonafide punchers and most of which were underrated due to the lack of star power in the Heavyweight division until Tyson came along.

    The difference being here that Lewis, always a beneficiary of timing, beat these guys when they were less than their very best.

    -The Morrison that Mercer faced was far better than the one that Lewis beat who was all but spent.
    -The Mercer that Lewis faced was 35 and never given a rematch despite some (not me) arguing the result of the decision.
    -The Holyfield that Lewis faced had declined considerably.
    -The Tyson was a shell of his former self, it's hard to argue what that fight actually proved.

    His resume is good but vastly overrated in recent times, for pete's sake Lewis vs Tyson had very close odds and Lewis only fought once after that.

    The way I see it, a puncher with the media personality of a dead ox will get more coverage a boxer with an average personality. Lewis beat punchers who were greatly aggrandized and that's why his resume looks deeper than it really is.

    I'll leave you this to ponder, who is the better scalp, David Tua or Chris Byrd?
     
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  11. Seamus

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    Norton went on to get slaughtered by Shavers and Cooney, squeaking out a decision to Tex Cobb along the way.

    Holy went on to beat Ruiz, Rahman, Savarese and many would argue Valuev. Holy was only a little over a year past his victory over Moorer to reclaim the belt. Prime? Maybe not but certainly near the top of division.

    I'll take that version of Holy over that version of Norton any day of the week.

    Tua.
     
  12. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Straight question..

    Does your best Heavy of all time aka Lennox Lewis aka your claimed ATG #3, Lewis who fought the most murderous punchers the division has ever seen(according to you) go undefeated prime vs prime against Tyson/Holyfield/Bowe ?

    Do any of the above expose his chin or merely being "focused" and acclimated to high altitude without hanging out with stars ,the common excuse Lewis fans use,will let him cruise to victory?

    Please advise
     
  13. Mendoza

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    We don't know that answer. But we do know Holyfield has a losing record vs. Bowe and Lewis, in addition to being 1-1-1 vs Ruiz, and losing to blow up middle weights.

    The Norton Larry Holmes beat was a good fighter. Norton has wins over Ali, and Quarry, plus Young, Bobbick, and Cobb. Probably Holmes 1st or 2nd best win. But Larry's resume of wins still doesn't measure up to Lewis.

    If we are talking resumes, Lewis has the edge. If we are talking better and more consistent champions, perhaps Holmes get the nod.
     
  14. Seamus

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    Prime Tyson? I pick Lewis. He was excellent at manhandling and stifling small heavies. See: Tua, Butler, old Tyson. And Tyson, well, he was excellent at being smothered by huge, strong heavies. See: Tucker, Smith. And sure Mike decisioned those two but Lewis had a way more complete offense than either of those two offered.

    Prime Holy? When was that? When he was losing to Bowe? Or when he was losing to Moorer? "Heart issues" aside, Holy was always game and skilled and not afraid to brawl. I would say his pressure would win him one out of three.

    Prime Bowe? Lewis was smarter and stronger and lived rent free in Riddick's head. Lennox wins every time.
     
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  15. sauhund II

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    Are you drunk ?

    Are you comparing Tyson to Butler or fat Tua ?Obese Butler was missing in action roughly 2 hours before the fight and they found him with hookers in a motel all f 'ed up and King literally dragged him to the Ring, the fight was almost cancelled because of it.........true story not fiction.

    Tua who sat on his ranking while getting fat and not fighting anybody worth a lick after the Ike loss ? That one trick pony ?

    Two flash in the pan ham and eggers, one a gang banger who started boxing as a adult and the other was/is a professional crack head with sparring partner syndrome get Lemmie out with ONE shot each but he just cruises thru much, much stiffer , skilled and talented guys like Tyson/Holyfield./Bowe............you need to sue your brain for non support if you truly believe what you type....

    Irregardless you are hereby crowned the biggest Lennox Lewis apologist the world has ever seen......by any chance do you work for his PR team ?