Will Usyk dare to go toe to toe with the bomber?

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol what a guy,footwork is unreal.
     
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  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol not I,rarely do I give predictions but I picked Bellew in both as it was so obvious from his two previous opponents what his game was.nobody would of hypothetically proposed Haye and Breidis anyway due to weight disparity.
     
  3. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I get a trollish vibe from Usyk :lol:
     
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  4. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I honestly think Chilemba is Bellews best win but that wasn't exactly clear.
     
  5. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spot on. I dont understand why after watching a fight where you can clearly see a fighter is shot, people say you cant say he was because you didnt say it before! That is madness. Haye was so shot i didnt even watch the whole fight and had zero interest in the 2nd.
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Haye was old in the first fight. He wasn't shot. He was clearly still able to fight. If he was shot, he wouldn't have easily blown out the previous two bums.
    But he was 36 years old and had a history of injuries.

    And in the rematch he was just too worn down.
    Bellew acknowledged as much. He called it and said it how it was. Haye should have listened :deal:
     
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  7. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Give over, Haye was shot to bits.

    Bellew himself did say that, even before the first fight he said if it's the old Haye I dont stand a chance.
     
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  8. Aleks!

    Aleks! Member Full Member

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    I thought all the really bad British posters left years ago?
     
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  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    The version of Haye who fought Bellew did not have the explosiveness of the prime version. He was visibly much slower and his timing was less atomic clock and more grandfather clock. Props to Bellew for getting the wins, but I highly doubt he had to take anything remotely close to the kind of heavy punches Haye used to land on opponents. And with less mobility, Haye ate more leather against Bellew than he would normally have. You cannot overstate how faded Haye was by the time he chose to cash out.
     
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  10. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Then how to the **** did he blast out Mori and that other bum?
    Me stating Haye could still fight doesn't mean that i think Haye is still at his best. He was in shape, wasn't afraid to let his hands go and he was full of confidence.
    But he was 36 years old and had gone through a **** ton of injuries. He was clearly way past his prime. He could easily handle lesser fighters but no longer was he himself world class.
    There is a difference between being shot and being old as ****.
    Didn't i mention this?
    Shot fighters loose to the likes of Mori. Not annihilate them.
     
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  11. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Perez also easily got outboxed by Jennings, who would lose to Bellew.

    Also, kickboxing and boxing are completely different sports, so what he did in kickboxing is irrelevant in his boxing career.

    Briedis picked up a vacant strap against the very a shot Huck, who at around 7-8 years ago was a very good fighter that would've easily beaten a guy like Briedis, butwhen he fought Briedis he had already been shot for years.

    Bellew coming from the the 175 division already has experience against top competition, since the top 10 fighters at 175 are superior fighters compared to the top cruiserweights. Briedis only has experience against shot fighters like Huck, heavyweight rejects like Perez, or mediocre heavyweights like Charr. The only good fighter he's faced as a pro is Usyk, who easily outboxed him.

    Cruiserweight is such a weak division that a nonpuncher like Dorticos had 17 straight knockouts. An inactive and out of shape Edison Miranda, who wasn't good enough to compete at 175 anymore and was easily beaten into submission by Bellew had no problem going the distance with Dorticos and even rocked Dorticos several times.

    Top talent never stays in the cruiserweight division for a reason, since besides a few exceptions such as Holyfield, prime Haye, and Usyk, who use the cruiserweight division as a stepping stone the cruiserweight is a dumping ground for old light heavyweights that can't cut it anymore or Heavyweight rejects.

    Guys like Sullivan Barrera and Medzhid, who aren't championship material at 175 would easily be champions at cruiserweight.
     
  12. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    What exactly is gained by fighting to your opponents strength?
     
  13. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You get on the defensive so easily. Why are you so angry?

    The 2nd bit I was agreeing with you hence why I said it.
     
  14. Dirsspaardis

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    Dude, you’re embarrassing yourself.

    Just out of curiosity though, in your opinion, CW is a weak division compared to what?
     
  15. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    What? :lol: Because i used the word **** in a sentence?
    OK.

    You are the one coming at me with "Give over, Haye was shot". As a way of telling me i am completely wrong or something.

    None of what i states was defensive. It was the reality of that night. Haye was just too physically depleted to compete at world level.
    That doesn´t mean that he was shot. Especially since he just destroyed two (extra)fringe level guys.
     
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