How does Tony Bellew beat Usyk?

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  1. Scissors

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    The same David Haye who had only been stopped once before Bellew rolled in to town?
     
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    I wouldn’t say haye wasn’t glass chinned but I can’t remember him taking a clean shot and going down at HW? I like bellew is hey guy the crowd love to hate?

    I’ve been a bellew fan since I seen him climb of the floor against ovil mackenzie and stop him, then he beat him in a one sided boxing’s lesson
    I think bellew has very underrated boxing ability he put boxed masternak

    Although I know he can’t put box usyk
     
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    Stopped once, but dropped mulitple times including a KD by a SMW.
     
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    Johnny Nelson reckons Bellew is a better technical boxer than Usyk.

    I'm cancelling Sky. I can't stand this attempt at moronic brainwashing.
     
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    I agree with Johnny nelson !!!

    I’m a big bellew fan and honestly can’t understand Johnny? His logic is you fight on sky your the best boxer ever he needs to have a word with him self it’s ludicrous

    Quick question to Johnny nelson what number is bellew in the top ten p4p then?? I would guess number 2 behind Joshua haha
     
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    I saw that and I couldn't believe my eyes. Although this man also said Whyte reminds him of Joe Frazier. A man who said Mcgregor would have the edge in fitness over Mayweather over 12. The man who described Takam as 'as strong as Foreman'. The man who said Jr could be overmatched again Tony Jeter. The man who said Usyk is a fighter who lacks confidence.

    He is absolutely without a doubt one of the biggest spastics in the sport and the most sickeningly vociferous cheerleader for Matchroom
     
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    Listening to the sky pundits now is painful. I used to rate Nelson as an analyst, but he is clearly a company man now and my respect for him is disappearing.
    Although never a fan of him, at least Big Glenn McCrory spoke his mind.
     
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    He wasn't as bad when he was main anchor but it's gotten terrible.
    Indeed, I'm happy for a pundit to have what I might think is an awful opinion if they can actually explain it or show consistency (without bias). A lot of the Sky punditry when picking a fighter tends to be "I just got a feeling..." - this is not analysis. Duke Mackenzie is really poor as well but he doesn't share the same platform so doesn't grate as much. I'm pretty sure it was Darren Barker who picked Whyte in a fight because he was British. Like what the ****? Barker was sound when he first joined Sky but he's become a company mule. Macklin a little less so, I think.
     
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    That is a stupid statement from Johnny. If he said that Bellew has more heart, experience, power then you could think it was just Johnny trying to make Bellew look like he had a chance but to say he is better technically is just laughable.
     
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    Usyk is being overrated. Bellew has a real chance. He can hurt the guy.
     
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    This explains the conditioning after all these years.
     
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    I like Paulie as a pundit he breaks the fight down and gives you positives and negative points for all the fighters don’t like the fact he can’t get over the McGregor situation

    I think macklin is one of the better ones from sky

    I like Dave Coldwell as a pundit don’t think to many would agree with me
     
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    Gassiev punches harder than Bellew.
     
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    Bellew has to go for it early to have any chance
     
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    With respect bud, how do you know this for sure? Maybe his straight right, uppercut, jab etc itself isn’t as hard as the Gassiev’s, Breidis’s or Dorticos’s of the division but he’s proven a number of times that he’s very dangerous if you try and throw hooks with him, he can time them so well and certainly hard enough to put an opponent on his backside.
     
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