Billy Joe Saunders suspended 6 months by WBO!

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  1. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Doesn't Bellew want death penalty? :lol:
    BJS got off lightly.
     
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  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To be clear

    Other fighters who popped for the same thing in the past during training, have been allowed to fight.

    So there is legitimate reason here for the authorities issuing the ban to be sued into the Stone Age.
     
  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOl just what I said
     
  4. Tazz

    Tazz Member Full Member

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    I doubt they will sue anyone, because they don't have a case against any party.

    Can't sue VADA because they were given the list of prohibited substances, and the definition of what VADA counts as in-competition.

    Can't sue MSAC because they refused to grant him a license based on the valid reason that he failed a drug test. Regardless of whatever drug testing procedures MSAC have they can't ignore a failed test just because it was conducted by a 3rd party. They wouldn't have granted him a license if he had failed a UKAD test.

    Can't sue the WBO either. They didn't strip him of his title, and the ban he received is meaningless. He will just be out of their rankings for 6 months. It doesn't stop him from fighting in that time.
     
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  5. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Agree they have no case against VADA or WBO. I think that the MSAC issue however is less clear cut. As per my previous post, their own procedures may be relevant in this instance.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no such thing as "Lineal WBO" / "Lineal Alphabet" champion. The Lineal Title is separate from the alphabet titles.
     
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  7. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Name me one fighter who failed a Vada test for the same substance and fought in Boston?
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes but BJS has "character issues". I heard he cursed out the commission in a conference call when he had his license revoked. Weeks before the positive test he was fined 100,000 quid for posting a video where he was seen trying to sell crack to a hooker in a car. There's a video of that came out showing his son Stevie driving his car in a field. The guy is a complete nutcase.

    So I don't know what caused the 6 month suspension, but it's the same length as the Canelo suspension and Canelo has a more legit excuse, since eating meat is not an act of cheating. BJS knowingly sticking a banned substance up his nose is.
     
  9. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Eating meat isn't cheating. Eating contaminated meat is.
     
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  10. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really banned then, is he. It’s just the WBO meaning he won’t get a chance to get his belt back for a while.
     
  11. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dunno, I used to be really high on BJS. When he was cruising his way on through the domestic scene, he really did look the business. His commitment was sometimes questionable but, there was no denying his talent.

    Now he's with a gym who in several instances, the gyms fighters have failed drugs tests, have a somewhat uncomfortable air of arrogance about them and BJS, particularly of late has shown himself to be a complete and utters hit.

    He'd also been holding that WBO belt hostage with his 'injury pullouts', fight cancellations and less than inspiring performances except for Lemieux. If BJS is serious about his career, now we'll see cuz there's no longer any easy paths to a belt. As already stated, Karmas a *****
     
  12. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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  13. tommyg6

    tommyg6 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That whole gym is on the juice. Especially Dominic Ingle himself, that dude looks like the Hulk!
     
  14. Tazz

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    See below, which I found through the www.mass.gov.org and ending up at https://www.mass.gov/files/documents/2017/10/06/523cmr20.pdf

    To me, it's pretty clear that MSAC followed their procedures, and that any appeal or lawsuit will fail.

    Just to be clear btw, I'm a fan of Saunders. It's just that his team screwed up and gave him something they shouldn't have, and Frank Warren lied about something verifiable in his attempt to salvage the situation for his client.
     
  15. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Likewise, I'm not saying they will win, just that there looks to be an arguable case.

    I think the argument will centre on whether the substance was actually on the prohibited list at the time of the test. The MSAC rules reference WADA which allows this substance out of competition as opposed to VADA which prohibits it throughout their testing window. It doesn't look like the MSAC rules address this detail, so it may need a Massachusetts judge to rule on what MSAC were bound by when considering the Saunders test.