I was just thinking that a couple of the guys on the current p4p list are 30 or thereabouts. People often ask the question are they all time greats? Have they done as much as previous boxing heroes? Well, let's look at some records and see who the greats of the past had fought by the time they were where these guys are. Holman Williams, Mikey Garcia 21 HW: Cocoa Kid x2, MG: nobody worth mentioning 22 HW: Cocoa Kid x2, MG: nobody worth mentioning 23 HW: nwm, MG: nwm 24 HW: Eddie Booker, Charley Burley MG: nwm 25 HW: Cocoa Kid, MG: Orlando Salido, Juan Manuel Lopez, Roman Martinez 26 HW: Cocoa Kid, MG: nwm 27 HW: Cocoa Kid x3, Charley Burley x4, MG: nwm 28 HW: Cocoa Kid, Charley Burley, Lloyd Marshall, Eddie Booker, MG: nwm 29 HW: Jack Chase x4, Eddie Booker, Lloyd Marshall x2, MG: Broner, Zlaticanin 30 HW: Cocoa Kid x2, Charley Burley, Archie Moore x2, MG: Robert Easter Tony Canzoneri, Vasyl Lomachenko 18 TC: Bud Taylor x2, Johnny Dundee, VL: amateur 19 TC: Bud Taylor, Benny Bass, VL: amateur 20 TC: Al Singer, Sammy Mandell, VL: amateur 21 TC: Jack Berg, Benny Bass, Billy Petrolle, Al Singer, VL: amateur 22 TC: Sammy Fuller, Jack Berg x2, VL: amateur 23 TC: Kid Chocolate, Billy Petrolle, VL: amateur 24 TC: Barney Ross x2, VL: amateur 25 TC: Kid Chocolate, Baby Arizmendi, VL: nwm 26 TC: Lou Ambers, VL: Orlando Salido, Gary Russell Jr. 27 TC: Jimmy McLarnin x2, Lou Ambers, VL: nwm 28 TC: Lou Ambers, VL: nwm 29 TC: nwm, VL: Guillermo Rigondeaux 30 TC: nwm, VL: Jorge Linares Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather 19 MP: Chatchai Sasakul, FM: nwm 20 MP: nwm, FM: nwm 21 MP: nwm, FM: Hernandez 22 MP: Ledwaba FM: nwm 23 MP: nwm FM: Corrales 24 MP: Barrera, FM: nwm 25 MP: Marquez, FM: Castillo x2 26 MP: Morales, FM: nwm 27 MP: Morales x2, FM: nwm 28 MP: Barrera, FM: nwm 29 MP: Marquez, De La Hoya, FM: Judah 30 MP: Hatton, Cotto, FM: De La Hoya, Hatton Whitaker and Chavez 23 PW: Roger Mayweather, JC: Ruben Castillo, Roger Mayweather 24 PW:JL Ramirez, JC: Rocky Lockridge, Juan Laporte 25 PW: Greg Haugen, JL Ramirez, JC: Edwin Rosario, Rafael Limon 26 PW: Azumah Nelson, JC: JL Ramirez, Roger Mayweather 27 PW: nwm, JC: Meldrick Taylor 28 PW: nwm, JC: nwm 29 PW: Buddy McGirt, JC Chavez, JC: nwm 30 PW: Buddy McGirt, JC: Hector Camacho Roberto Duran Ray Leonard x2, Carlos Palomino, Esteban De Jesus x3, Edwin Viruet x2, Saoul Mamby, Guts Ishimatsu, Ken Buchanan, Ernesto Marcel Maybe that's aiming too high. What if we aim a little lower? What about Felix Trinidad? Hector Camacho, Pernell Whitaker, Oscar De La Hoya, Fernando Vargas, William Joppy, Bernard Hopkins How about just Terry Norris? Julian Jackson, John Mugabi, Ray Leonard, Donald Curry, Meldrick Taylor, Simon Brown x2 What about a guy who wasn't even in the top 10 of his generation? What about Miguel Cotto? Zab Judah, Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito, Manny Pacquiao