Is it harder to counter combo`s than single shots?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    It`s harder to counter combo`s than a single punch being thrown and GGG was doing fine he didn`t need to tell him to land one power punch at a time, telling him to look for the KO was stupid when he was scoring points with the jab and he would need to set up a single shot with a jab anyway. (My answer)/
    (Response to my answer) Rofl! no, it isnt! Where did you learn "It`s harder to counter combo`s than a single punch being thrown"? who taught it to you? that's a complete lie. As I said, for every extra hit in the combo, the probabilities of being timed and countered to the ground increase and not little bit, those probabilities increase A LOT, and more and more for evey punch you add to the combo. (response) Was I correct here?
     
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  2. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I think you're wrong...assuming you respect the punching power of the person you are fighting. Typically it's not the first punch that is going to result in being badly hurt, it's the ones that follow. If you expect a guy to throw multiple shots, you are much more hesitant to counter because if you guess wrong, it could be the end of the show. It's not impossible to do, but it's harder than somebody who you know is throwing one shot at a time.
     
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  3. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There is no right or wrong answer it depends on if someone is doing the same sequencive combos which will tell you beforehand what to counter.

    If someone has a very fast stinning single shot and you cant time it then you will have a more difficult time.

    the thing with combos you get less time to time a punch but you get more opportunities if the opponent is throwing more punches.

    In general combos are more unpredictable so they are harder to counter , timing can beat speed per punch with skill...so.......

    I would lean toward combos are harder to counter particularly if the counter puncher is fast the brain is / can process much more trying to time one particular punch instead of calculating where numerous ones will be.
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    My answer was the one saying you should use combo`s.
     
  5. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Sorry I misunderstood, then I agree with you. Apologies
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    think of it logically. a counter relies on knowing what punch or punches are coming so that you can get in the correct position and select the correct punch to counter. you do this by studying the fighters tendencies, whether they be when throwing single shots or combos. a guy like khan is timed off his combos, because they are predictable. a guy like floyd is timed off single punches, because his combos arent rehearsed.
    its a game of prediction, counter, counter to the counter, etc... feinting is a way to induce the counter, which you are planning on countering when he bites.
    you can also throw a punch without really trying to land, just so the opponent can react and open up for the punch you are actually trying to land.
    predictability is what determines whether your single shots or combos will be easier to time.
     
  7. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    To time you need the rithm of the guy, you cant take the rithm of a single punch, because there is no rithm. It's extremelly difficult to counter a single punch, you do it by pure reflexes and speed, there's no prediction there (most of the time, floyd is one of those who can predict a single punch).

    You think you are right, well you are not. You throw one punch, and you can be countered, you throw 5 punches and your chances of being counter punched just skyrocket.

    You wont believe it, ok, lets hope you are not an active fighter, because you would learn a very hard lesson the hard way.
     
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  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All comes down to levels and styles I guess,Eubank Jnr won his quarter final with an amazing combination of punches ending in a KO but against Groves he looked all at sea.
     
  9. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    When you are hitting or blocking there is a rithm. left, right, left, right, left, right... you can feel it in your hips/shoulders, if any of you have boxed you know this for sure. If you are blocking this rithm must be the same of the attacker's, if you are attacking you need a different rithm than the defender's. Once you take this rithm, instead of blocking you can chose to time/counter.

    Taking this rithm in a short combo, is extremely hard. But taking this rithm in a long combo is surprisingly natural, you can do it even if you dont realize, each punch, make it easier. The longer the combo, the easier for your oponent to take your rithm and, hence, to counter you to the ground.

    This is the reason why figthers must feint in a different rithm than they hit. Barthelemy is a master of this, this is the first name it came to my mind who has mastered this technique, but there are plenty. Feint jab, 1,2,3 feint jab 1,2,3 feint jab 1,2,3 (same rithm, until your oponent gets used to this rithm)then... punch,1,puch,1 punch, 1, punch. That's the right way to do it. If you feint and hit with the same rithm your oponent will mostly destroy you because he will know your rithm even before you hit, and that's a huge advantage (we are not talking about bad fighters, I talk about the top notch fighters in the world, regular amateurs for instance, like I was, cant even dream about doing that, but top notch fighters can do that easily).

    EDIT: there are people who say that you can "hear" if the gym is a gym for amateurs, or a gym for pros. When you hear the hit of the gloves in the punching bag, amateurs sound pam.pam.pam.pam, and pros pam...pam.pam...pam..pam...pam.pam (you cant foretell the rithm).
     
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