Was Anthony Joshua's lack of an above average jab, exposed against Povetkin & Joseph Parker?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Luis Fernando, Oct 27, 2018.


Was Joshua's jab exposed to be average at best, for a super heavyweight, in his last 2 bouts?

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  1. archdeacon99

    archdeacon99 Member Full Member

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    Joshua hardly ever throws his jab, it was not effective versus Parker or Povetkin, compare how Lewis used his jab [and movement] against a similar opponent
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  2. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua is a joke, he's a wooden top , gifted the gold at london olympics , hearns poster boy. wooden plodder...Ali was futuristic ,what he said about Big George being the mummy is exactly what Joshua is only worse...
     
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  3. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    funny cos before the fight you were talking about how much of a mismatch the fight was and that Povetkin shouldnt be allowed in the ring and that AJ should be dealing with him easily. Doesnt take a genius to figure out your agenda
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    The referee did not stop the fight, he stopped Povetkin from getting brain damage by flopping his head on the canvas after a brutal combination to his head by Joshua.

    Thank god for the referee catching Povetkins falling body.
     
  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    lol at everyone getting sucked into Luis' bull**** and trolling.

    Been there, done that, got the t-shirt (Trolled by Fernando).

    Never again! :D
     
  6. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.

    How many times do we see a hurt fighter go back in that condition and bounce their head off the mat? That does not do Povetkin 1 iota of good & it was going to happen w/o the ref catching him.
     
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    That's why dumb forum posters would make **** referees. You don't wait for a fighter to absorb devastating punishment to their head with their guard down, and see them fall to the canvas for a second time and let him continue.

    They are trained to spot the tell tale signs of concussions, and it is ******** obvious from seeing Povetkin fall through the ropes on the first knockdown that he was CONCUSSED AS ****.

    But Fernando wants it to be russian "If he dies, he dies" style and let the man continue. ERM NO. Human life is more important, he has a family, he has friends, he wants to have his motor skills to be able to walk in the park in retirement.

    Disgusting comments from insensitive posters.
     
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  8. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Compared to someone with one of the best HW jabs in history?

    Compare Joshua to his peers. He has a good jab.
     
  9. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Joshua has a below average jab and he hardly used it in the Povetkin fight!!! Thats Fernmungo's argument? Is this hardly used below average jab not the jab in the Povetkin that set up Joshuas 1st knock down of the fight which was the start of the end for Povetkin? I think Fernmungo thinks if the jab isnt to the face its not a jab. I dont think Fernmungo knows what hes talking about.
     
  10. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    MOST boxers lack a n above average jab.... what kind of crap thread is this?
     
  11. Stnucerasacirema

    Stnucerasacirema New Member Full Member

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    Your a ****ing ****** that's what you are. It's unhealthy being this jealous of another man
     
  12. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, if Joshua was really any better, he should've effortlessly dealt with Povetkin. I guess Joshua isn't as good as many made him out to be.

    Since historically speaking, 39 year old athletes are almost never elite level athletes. Or shouldn't be if the prime competition was really any good. Therefore, the expectation for Joshua to defeat Povetkin more easily and in more dominant fashion, was a reasonable one.
     
  13. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Joshua had a better jab, Povetkin would barely have even got close to Joshua in 7 rounds. More specifically, a shot 39 year old Povetkin. Landing a few tapping body jabs proves nothing. Povetkin's age cost him, more than those insignificant jabs by Joshua.
     
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  14. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it's a boxers choice if he wants to continue. It's his life, and it's his health. If he is willing to risk his life, then who the hell is anybody else to stop him? Maybe he believes he can continue fighting to win, even at the expense of his life? Maybe he'd rather die than quit? In the end of the day, it's a personal choice.

    Povetkin was literally responding and talking to the referee after both knockdowns. And I've seen boxers get back up before from not just 2, but 3 or more knockdowns and fight until the final bell. So who knows if Povetkin could have, or couldn't have continued. It's UTTER SPECULATION either way from both sides.

    If Povetkin really didn't want to further risk his health by continuing to fight. He could've chosen to make the active decision to stay down and not get back up. The fact that he did, contradicts your OVERLY sensitive points about Povetkin supposedly didn't want to continue taking more damage and punishment.

    Referees make mistakes on a regular basis. So don't start implying that because referees are somehow trained to spot the signs of concussions, that somehow every decision they make is going to be an accurate one.
     
  15. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holding and hitting is illegal, period! Joshua did hold and hit Parker plenty of times, along with other opponents. Ergo, by definition, Joshua uses illegal moves and is therefore a dirty fighter. Holding and hitting is no less illegal than pressing your weight down on an opponent.

    It is possible to hold with one arm / hand and hit with the other. Or were you incapable of figuring this out for yourself? Someone pushing their opponent's head down and then hitting them, prevents their opponent from doing anything in return because they lose vision from being able to see the punches their opponent is throwing at them. It also prevents them from seeing the openings to land their own punches. It also disrupts their balance ILLEGALLY, preventing them from throwing punches with sufficient power.

    It's not very difficult to prevent someone from clinching or leaning on you, provided you have the sufficient boxing skills. Having a tight guard, keeping your hips under you and controlling distance prevents anybody from leaning on your back or clinching you. Povetkin lacks those abilities. Usyk and Lomachenko possess those abilities. Wladimir Klitschko could never do to Usyk, what he did to Povetkin. In fact, nobody could do to Usyk, what Wlad did to Povetkin in terms of clinching. Wanna know why? Because Usyk controls range and doesn't flail his head around all over the place like an idiot. He won't allow such a thing to happen to him. Since he holds a tight guard, maintains his balance by keeping his hips under him and controls distance properly.








    Erm no! You implied the way Povetkin closed distance against Wladimir Klitschko, was somehow the only possible way to close distance against taller opponents. And I debunked that statement by showing you other shorter skilled boxers like Lomachenko closing distance better than the way Povetkin does. Nothing more, nothing less! You need to learn to follow your own statements and points.

    Whether Lomachenko was a lightweight or not, is TOTALLY irrelevant. The point is, he fought a guy that tried to clinch him, lean on his back and use other dirty tactics, but showed how to neutralize those tactics.


    Ducking below the belt is LITERALLY against the rules. You need to go and research the rules of boxing, rather than exposing your ignorance here. You've basically admitted (probably inadvertently) that Povetkin is breaking the rules of boxing, when you claimed he ducks down that low. Since that is the very definition of an illegal move.

    Coming in head first, is no different from coming in elbow first, or knee first, or a non-grounded foot first. In other words, they are classified as an ATTEMPTED illegal attack. Coming in head first, is equivalent to an attempted headbutt. Just like coming in elbow first, is an attempted elbow.

    I've got no problems admitting Povetkin is a chronic fouler. Just like how Wilder, Fury, Joshua, Lennox Lewis and pretty much every other top heavyweights are / have been chronic foulers. That's just the way boxing is / has been unfortunately. Am I necessarily a fan of this? Of course not! But do I hold everyone to the same standard? Yes! Unlike you, who is only open to Wladimir Klitschko's fouls but totally blind to others fouling. Which is a case of your problem with Wladimir Klitschko, being beyond Wlad fouling or beyond the sport of boxing in general.

    I wrote that statement, in sarcasm to you claiming Wlad should have been disqualified. But whatever!

    And you committed not one, but multiple lies. You didn't only lie about Holyfield's age against Lennox Lewis, but Lewis's age against Vitali Klitschko too. When you're committing multiple errors like that, I can only infer that you're deliberately lying out of your teeth to make a point.

    I don't claim victories on the internet like you probably do. The fact that you have to mention victories online in a website like this, further reveals more things about you.

    I'll post how I want. If I want to type essays, I'll do so. If you can't make me, don't command me.