Usyk will get hurt so bad by Joshua or Wilder

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  1. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fury would be a cakewalk.
     
  2. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never said he is more skilled than joshua, I said Bellew has better ring IQ, better Footwork and quicker jab, which is true.
     
  3. smiffyinoz

    smiffyinoz Active Member Full Member

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    just to be sure I wasn’t misreading, you did say Bellew was better than Joshua right?
     
  4. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said he is quicker in every department, NEVER did I say he is better than Joshua, Anthony weighs 60lbs more so obviously Bellew is quicker than him.
     
  5. Am92

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    Seems like boxing for a lot of people has turned into whoever is the biggest wins. When has that ever been the case ? Plenty of cruiserweights have stepped up and become great heavyweight champions and arguably usyk is better than most of those guys.

    Its an easy transition for usyk he has fought and beat more heavyweights than wilder and joshua combined and taken more blows from heavyweights than either in the process.

    Joshua would be taylor made for usyk, his style is too simplistic and straight forward it would be easy for him to read and would give him absolote hell with his footwork. Look at the problems a 39 year old povetkin was giving joshua before his legs started to tire. Hes a smaller guy than usyk and not half the boxer either, but he was completely outboxing joshua before age caught up with him. Usyk wont tire and age wont catch up with him, little takam was wrongfully stopped and good for 12 rounds on short notice, so theres no reason usyk isnt.

    Wilder is wilder he will get completly bamboozled by usyk and made to look a fool, its just a matter of wilder catching him. Again though if stiverne can go 12 and duhaupas and molina can go late why wont usyk go the distance ?

    Fury assuming he is at his best, is the only one I think is all wrong for usyk. He will take away usyks jab with his size and reach and tie him up when he gets on the inside.

    Sure when fighting these bigger guys you run a greater risk of getting knocked out by them, but lets not pretend that cruiserweights dont go up and beat all the heavyweights.
     
  6. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    Same difference, those are fundamentals that make up a boxers skill.
    Joshua's jab is faster, longer delivered with more power and better timing, same with his right hand.
    Usyk has no head movement and is one paced. His defense is to use his quick feet to dart in and out of range, he's done this every fight I've seen, that's his defense. It works against guys he's taller and longer than, well... To a degree. It didn't work against Bellew until the pace got to him. Usyk made barely any adjustments and that's not because he knew plan A would work, I simply don't think he had one hence the befuddled look for the first 5 rounds.
    This guy is being setup for a fall, I just hope all of the cheer leaders on here give whatever world level heavyweight who beats him the credit.
     
  7. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Usyk is going to eat these hw monsters like having a bag of monster munch. Tears of the casuals will be epic.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think people underestimate Joshua's ring IQ, I think he's a very cerebral fighter. The set up for the Povetkin KO, the way he was able to stay calm and regroup after being dropped by Wlad, how he switched tactics vs Breazeale when it became clear he wasn't going to blow him out quickly. A less intelligent fighter would of panicked when struggling vs Povetkin early and abandoned his strategy, might not have have the foresight to just give up some rounds and recoup vs Wlad and punched himself out vs Breazeale.
     
  9. travolt

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    Usyk was anything but dominant throughout the bout.

    He had to wait for Bellew to tire before he got brave, even though he was younger and much taller and better conditioned.

    He's another Mikey Garcia, a diva and safety-first fighter doing just enough to win without risking damage.
     
  10. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You are racially triggered. You came here to bait, only to expose your own insecurity. Fail thread. What an idiot. Stop watching interracial porn son...
     
  11. Brighton bomber

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    Didn't say he dominated, in the Usyk/Bellew wasn't competitive thread I clearly am stating it was competitive.

    He did wait til Bellew tired. He knew it was going to happen though so knew he didn't have to take risks and force the fight.

    I don't think he's all safety first the Briedis fight showed him in a more aggressive mode, probably because he knew he'd have to break Briedis down unlike Bellew where he could wait for a mistake or for him to tire.
     
  12. Hankey89

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    When has it ever been the case? Go look at every dominant heavyweight from the last 20 years... they have all been around 6 foot 5.
     
  13. Am92

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    There have been plenty of good smaller guys in the last 20 odd year. Mike tyson, evander holyfield, james toney, michael moorer, david haye etc. Sure the stand out names are vitali, wladimir and lennox, but lennox was knocked out by a smaller guy in hasim rahman and wlad been knocked out by a smaller guy in lamon brewster. Both are smaller than usyk and have nowhere near the ability of him either. If guys of that calibre can be beat by smaller guys, then im sure usyk can beat wilder and joshua.
     
  14. GALVATRON

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    Dont know about wilder if Usyk keeps moving and will be aware not to stay in pocket long ,the question there is does wilder land Cleanly bc his punch is vastly overatted if it doesn't not including ILLEGAL cuffed back head shots..etc...

    Joshua would have an easy nights work the very least would be able to coast to a wiin very simalr to the Parker fight. As I told you all before no southpaw defeats him,there custom made for him and he actually gave Bellew the blue print which was countering him and he landed a lot of those right hands in 6 rounds ,he just abandoned his jab at 6'3 he needed it.

    I also noticed Usyk was very much more grounded and didn't move a lot as much so is he himself slowing down with that style rthat requires great energy levels and what weight will he be at heavyweight ? It was a pretty even fight going into round 8,i had Usyk up 5 rounds to 2 but they were close rounds ...nothing tells me Usyk defeats Joshua based off Tony Bellew ? lol
     
  15. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You have to consider not only size but reach. Usyk has long arms but would be giving up a 4" reach advantage to AJ and 5" to Wilder. That's going to pose big problems for him as he moves up.

    That said, he's very skilled and I find an entertaining watch. And that was a hell of a KO. Best wishes to him, he has nothing left to prove at CW and has a strong shot at grabbing a big payday against AJ.