Usyk Bellew similar to Joshua povetkin, and yet..

I would argue Povetkin is more to the HW division than what Bellew is to CW as well. Completely agree.

 

You also forgot to mention that,

Joshua had a SIGNIFICANT:

1) Weight advantage

2) Height advantage

3) Reach advantage

4) Muscle mass advantage

5) Hometown advantage

6) Far greater age advantage (11 years younger, compared to Usyk being only 4 years younger than Bellew).

7) Judges advantage scoring in favor of himself.

And I don't even need to mention things like Povetkin being drug tested to the absolute max. Whilst juicy Joshua isn't under the same scrutiny.

Povetkin had 0, and I mean 0 meaningful advantage over Joshua. Not size, not weight, not height, not reach, not age, not even location / venue or PED advantage of Joshua. Povetkin's Olympic gold medal that he won in 2004, is totally irrelevant in 2018.

You may claim experience. But experience is useless, if someone's body isn't competent enough to apply the experience advantage.

Meanwhile, Tony Bellew had a ton of advantage over Oleksandr Usyk:

1) Tony Bellew had the hometown location / venue advantage.

2) Tony Bellew had the advantage with the judges scorecard, due to them favoring him unfairly over Usyk.

3) Both Usyk and Bellew were the same height. Unlike Joshua and Povetkin. Where Joshua had the 4 inch minimum height advantage.

4) Usyk only had a 4 inch reach advantage. Compared to Joshua over Povetkin, where he had a 7 inch reach advantage.

5) Usyk only had a 4 year age advantage. Compared to Joshua, who had a much bigger 11 year age advantage over Povetkin.




Joshua losing rounds to Povetkin with the insane number of advantages he had, is FAR, and I mean FAR worse than Usyk supposedly losing rounds to Bellew where he didn't have anywhere near the same number of advantages that Joshua had over Povetkin.


Imagine if Usyk fought Bellew in Ukraine, whilst totally juiced up, whilst Bellew was totally drained from being drug tested 24-7, with a whooping 11 year age advantage at age 28 whilst Bellew was freaking 39 years old. And Usyk still lost freaking 4 or 5 rounds, until he stopped a tired Bellew in the 7th round. That'd be beyond embarrassing, humiliating and shameful, to the point where Usyk would need to be ridiculed for all of eternity. Just like how Joshua needs to be ridiculed for having that much difficulty against the current version of Povetkin with that many advantages stacked in his favor.

 

Annnnd that’s the ballgame folks! Drive home safe. Thanks for coming out!

 

Usyk isn't a P4P great just because he beat Bellew though, the same way people haven't just based their opinions of AJ's skill level on the Povetkin fight. And Povetkin has never proved he has "brutal KO power, or elite skills" at the top level. so stop rewriting the narrative to suit your agenda.

Usyk never looked out of control of the fight, even when dropping the first 2 rounds. He was forcing Bellew to fight the way he was, and at a pace bellew wasn't comfortable with, all the while working Bellew out and tiring him out. So although, yes he did drop those rounds, everything was going according to his plan.

Although Joshua didn't really look out of control, i definitely don't think what happened in the early rounds of Joshua/Povetkin was down to AJ. Povetkin's plan was an early attack, whereas Bellew has said he planned to wrestle Usyk and wear him down but was never given the option to do that, as Usyk was dictating what was happening.

But i'm fairly sure no one said Joshua got exposed by Povetkin. and if they did, why would you listen an opinion as stupid as that?

 

There are myriad nuances in boxing that you clearly don't understand. It's why/how they dropped rounds, not just the fact that they did.

And Usyk wasn't "outboxed", and i wouldn't necessarily say Joshua was either, it's just Povetkin stuck it on him and landed punches. Just because you drop rounds does not mean you're being "outboxed"

 

Yes this forums bias when it comes to Usyk fighting is overwhelming but when it comes down to it AJ will beat Usyk and there will be salty tears flowing for months.

 

There we have it folks. Most boxing fans are biased white supremacists. The below quotation is completely untrue, instead, it is indeed because Joshua is black.

 

The idea Usyk chose to be out boxed is as likely as Wilder choosing to be out boxed by Washington and Ortiz.

Nobody plans to be out boxed, but fighters can accept that they would do worse if they pressed more and prefer to be patient and smart and wait for opportunities to arise, instead of forcing it and being countered, especially when they are the type of fighter who has the power to end fights suddenly.

 

Forget exposing Usyk and Joshua, let's start exposing the salty teared haters on these forums.

They will hype anyone and everyone just to see AJ or Dillian fall down and crumble.

It pains them to have british men on top the industry. Forget being black, so is Ortiz (Cuban, meh) and Wilder.

I love Usyk just as much as the next person, in fact I am not sure I've seen any one here say they hate UsyK????

But AJ beats Usyk... just be objective!!!!

Tired of alll the HYPING!! ARGH...

 

Incredible that you've tried to turn Bellew getting separated from his senses into a pro-AJ thread. Really hope you didn't pull any muscles with that stretch.

 

Prove Povetkin was drug tested 24/7 while Joshua wasn't? You can't cos you made it up.
How does one guy end up "totally drained" from testing but the other doesn't?.

Vada testing doesn't leave guys drained.
Bellew making a weight he hadn't made in years in a relativity short peroid of time is what makes guys drained.

Povetkin wasn't drained in the slightest , certainly not because of some drug testing. He intends to fight on under Matchroom in the UK because of how well he was treated when he fought Joshua , so that kinda blows your whole theory apart doesn't it.

 

You need help mate. Chill out with all this race stuff. It makes you look deranged.

 

Well Usyk hasn't really done anything warrant any hate yet. Fights on the road in a fan friendly style. Not a trash talker and seems to have a funny off kilter sense of humour.

Compare that with Kovalev who everyone saw as a lot darker and how many people didn't take to him.