Sugar Ray Leonard said he had Canelo beating GGG in the rematch . . .

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If by Canelo's judges you mean the judges that scored the bout and had Canelo winning then yeah he knows all about that. And Trout also knows what it's like to do a tribute to the disney classic Bambi on Ice.
    You saying that you're right doesn't mean you were right. Anyone can say they were right. The judges say you were wrong twice, and you were wrong again in that you predicted GGG would knock Canelo out which didn't even come close to happening.
    Oh is that what I was doing : Defending drugs? Eating meat isn't doing drugs or cheating brainiac. If that were the case then everybody except for vegetarians would be drug addicts.

    Threw more and landed more over 24 rounds? Sure I'll give you that. Hurt Canelo? Yeah OK he did hurt Canelo, exactly one time over 24 rounds, G had him momentarily buzzed in the 10th round of the rematch with that flurry. I can't take that away from you. However over 24 rounds Canelo GGG hurt several times. Those two big uppercuts in the middle rounds of the first fight, the big right hand in the 9th round that made GGG's head spin around like the exorcist and several times in the rematch. G absorbed a lot of big punches, he has a hell of a chin and a good poker face, but he was hurt several times in both fights. He was marked up in the face like we never seen before, he was breathing hard during the rounds and in the corner, he was hocking loogies. Neither fighter was seriously hurt, but lets not act like G wasnt buzzed several times over the 24 rounds.

    Wow BCS we're making some progress here. I actually sort of agree with you here. You're right Canelo did his best work in the first half of the fight (rounds 2,3,5,and 6) He kept it going in round 7 and 8 but GGG stepped it up late. Unfortunately for GGG he let Canelo win too many early rounds and he dug himself too big of a hole that he couldn't get out of. It was a nice late rally to make it close, but it was a textbook case of "too little too late" for GGG.
     
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  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're referring to a single punch vs a long list of body shots. Yes Canelo's neck twisted in the 10th round of the rematch similar to how GGG's neck twisted in the 9th round of the first fight. A lot of times that happens because the fighter sees the punch coming and tries to move his head to avoid the shot but it still connects.
     
  4. BCS8

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    #corruptioninboxing

    Taking drugs and blaming cows is reprehensible.

    :rolleyes:

    He was in no form bothered by Canelo's punching power. It's quite clear that while Canelo is an exceptional boxer with exceptional handspeed, he simply doesn't have the power to hurt GGG. Your wishing he did doesn't make it so. Worst Golovkin has ever been hurt was where Stevens caught him flush coming in and straightened his leg for him. That's it.

    In your opinion. Most boxing fans polled had GGG winning.
     
  5. BCS8

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    I'm referring to where Golovkin repeatedly snapped Canelo's head around vs body shots. Canelo's body work was a complete fail, because it was Golovkin that grew stronger in the fight, showing that it was ineffective.
     
  6. shadow111

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    Yes he was. He just has a lot of pride and a good poker face. Those uppercuts in the first fight buzzed GGG, he hesitated several times he even lost his balance momentarily at one point. In the rematch, when GGG tagged him in the 10th round, Canelo was buzzed momentarily but his legs didn't buckled, he didn't start gasping for air or grimace in the first fight like GGG did in the first fight. Canelo shook it off and continued to come forward.

    Over 24 rounds, neither fighter came close to being seriously hurt man, they both have granite chins.
     
  7. BCS8

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    I think you're wrong, but let's leave it at that.
     
  8. shadow111

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    That's a bit of a red herring, as GGG was clearly pacing himself more in the early rounds of the rematch while Canelo was the one expending more energy loading up on all those power punches. The body work paid dividends in both fights. Canelo didn't come on as strong late in the rematch as he was much more active in the middle rounds in the rematch than he was in the first fight. In the first fight it was Canelo who was pacing himself more in the middle rounds by using his feet and lowering his output which conserved more of his energy so he could come on late.
     
  9. BCS8

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    Golovkin fought at his usual pace in the rematch up to the 8th where he found another gear. It was Canelo who was trying hard in the middle. The fact that GGG found another gear is proof that the bodywork didn't do anything, because if it had been effective he'd have wilted instead of been able to turn up the heat. The only thing the body punches did was score points. Golovkin has an iron midsection. Jacobs, who hits much harder than Canelo, really worked Golovkin's mid over and he had no luck either.
     
  10. shadow111

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    In general body work is more effective when your opponent is exerting himself. In the first fight GGG was expending a lot more energy trying to chase Canelo around the ring that it resulted in him fatiguing more down the stretch. In the rematch G was pacing himself better and had more left in the tank because he had a guy coming forward who was outworking him. So of course he had more left in the tank in the rematch. All he was doing for the first 8 round was backing away and throwing the jab. In the first fight he was chasing Canelo trying to be the aggressor becoming frustrated by his inability to land clean and was exerting himself in the process, so those body shots had more of an effect. GGG does have an iron midsection.