Roger Mayweather vs Hatton who would have won at 140?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Just started a thread titled who would have won at 140 between Paz and Hatton and somebody pointed out that Paz didn`t really do anything other than get beat by Roger, so I have started a better thread matching Hatton vs Roger as he beat Paz and would have been a harder opponent for Hatton to deal with, who wins then?
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Hatton inside the distance.
     
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  3. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see Roger stopping him. Hatton may get caught by an uppercut when rushing in
     
  4. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I remember that before Hatton fought Floyd...Roger kept saying over and over "He couldn't beat me"
     
  5. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This ^^^
     
  6. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When a fighter has a chin like Roger Mayweather...would you bet your entire paycheck on him?
     
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  7. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roger was a pretty good boxer himself. And, he hit harder than Floyd. If Floyd could get Hatton out of there, so could Roger. Roger TKO 10.
     
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  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, Hatton is getting overrated like Hell in this thread. You honestly believe he's stopping Roger quicker than Chavez did? LOL.

    I think this basically a pick em. The Roger who outclassed Pazienza was very much capable of beating Hatton.
     
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  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Do you feel Roger had a better chin at light welter? Chavez stopped him in 2 at 135. Hatton would have landed a lot more shots than Paz did, he was clueless vs Roger.
     
  10. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes he had a better chin at jr.welter .
    Roger could hit hard and could also box .
    hatton who walk into that right and would get finished.
    or Roger gets on his bike and cuts Hatton up
     
  11. expljose

    expljose Active Member Full Member

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    if hatton can get to roger he had the style to over whelm roger.. but if roger goes in there and puts in work and does what he does ... he puts 50 stiches in hattons face ... he's just too devastating offensively
     
  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In my sometimes less than humble opinion Hatton is over rated, I agree Roger hits him he's hurt
     
  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roger Mayweather in the 1987-1990 time period when he was at his best at 140 lbs, had a pretty good chin.

    During this time frame, he kod the hard hitting, but weak chined Rene Arredodondo. Then, he took the best shots of Harold Brazier, who had decent power. It was a war, and KO magazine had a headline that read, "Roger Mayweather wins a fight BECAUSE of his chin. " Harold Brazier was an underrated, fundamentally sound fighter. From 83-89 he only lost to Meldrick Taylor, Mayweather and Juan Coggi, all by decision.

    Then, Roger outboxed Paz, flooring the sturdy chinned Pazmanian Devil with an uppercut in the 11th round before cruising to a comprehensive UD. Some may also remember that he almost kod an enraged, onrushing Lou Duva after the fight. Lol.

    He was stopped by a prime Julio Cesar Chavez in the 10th round in '89, but was not knocked down. He quit on his stool after 10 rounds. He landed several hellacious right hands on Chavez in the course of the fight, but could not dent Chavez's iron chin. Chavez had a very underrated defense and was able to get inside and his pressure eventually wore Mayweather down. Mayweather, despite having spindly legs, possessed a strong upper body, and held his own for stretches on the inside. At one point during the middlerounds, Larry Merchant commented "This is man sized stuff" during the infighting. But Chavez was a special fighter and his combination of strength, chin and underrated defense proved too much for Mayweather.

    Prime Hatton was not as good as the 89 version of Chavez that Mayweather faced. At the same time, he was better than the 88 version of Paz that Roger faced.

    Hatton was not as well rounded as 140 lb prime Chavez. He had a worse defense and weaker chin. He may have been as physically strong. His punching power was probably on par with that of 140 lb. Chavez.

    He was stronger than Paz and hit harder. He also could also apply more sustained pressure. He, like Paz, could soak up punishment well.

    I do not believe Hatton had the power to score a one punch KO over prime 140 lb. Roger Mayweather. However, it is possible he could outwork him.

    The key to the fight would be Mayweather's underrated left jab. He had an exceptional jab which,combined with his 75 inch reach, allowed him to control from a distance. He totally neglected to use it at times, though. This was most evident in the Rocky Lockridge loss, when he let Lockridge get inside and was stopped by an overhand right in the first round.

    If Hatton could consistently slip the jab, he could rough up Roger on the inside and outhustle him. It is also possible he could land his powerful left hook if he can get Mayweather to fight defensively off the ropes. Rafael Pineda was able to do that and kod Roger with a single left hook in their 1991 match-up for the vacant IBF 140 lb title. That was a degraded version of Mayweather, though, in comparison to his form a few years earlier. That said, Hatton could be vulnerable to the type of inside uppercut that felled Pazienza.

    If Roger controls Hatton with the jab, he can follow with an excellent straight right. Thus, he can test Hatton's relative lack of defense and his chin. If Roger lands the type of shots on Ricky that he landed on Chavez, can Hatton take them and continue pressing forward?

    It's a very competitive match-up. Hatton was very strong and aggressive and displayed very good stamina. He also had a good work rate. I think he would be cut and staggered, at some point, though. I see Mayweather scoring a late-round TKO, possibly while behind on points.
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I’m just gonna say that the stuff Hatton was doing in his prime was pretty impressive. He took out aging but competent versions of Tsyzu(quit) and Castillo, dominated Urango, ragdolled Malignaggi, and only lost to two fighters who also are ATGs in his prime (or just after for Pacquiao). That puts him only behind the very best at 140.
     
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  15. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree that he is overrated by me lol, but not sure that means he is overrated. I think he was headed in that direction prior to Floyd by myself and others....

    But since then I think the decline was rapid in the other direction.

    So who....besides me overrates him today?