Only 7k tickets sold for Fury v Wilder so far!

Agreed, just hoping he's still got enough fight left in him after his absence to pull it off. He does look to be in tremendous shape, I'll give him that but this isn't a fight I'd want to bet on.

 

You can be reasonably assured that Fury is not going to go toe-to-toe with a guy with a KO% of almost 100, and who Haye said was the hardest hitter he'd been in with after sparring.

Particularly given Fury looked like he couldn't hit the skin off a rice pudding in his last two.

 

Never said it wouldn't. I was talking 'by degree'. And you would agree surely, beating Fury in a half empty venue would have a bigger impact on future value than losing to him in front of a sell-out crowd?

You'd be naive to think otherwise...

 

I agree, it's a balance between the sporting and commercial aspects, rather than one or the other. The best case scenario is both an eye-catching win and a sell out venue. But the former trumps the latter, because a loss to Fury and Wilder's stock plummets way more than the result of a few (or many) empty seats.

But I take your point, of course....

 

Now your changing the emphasis of your initial comment, which was Wilder winning and the numbers there to 'witness' it. That comment was attached to Hearn and a future bout with Joshua. That was YOUR comment.

Now your talking about Fury winning. If Fury wins what has that got to do with Wilder and any potential ' figure' from Hearn.

 

I just can't see Wilder being a bigger draw than AJ. Delusional sack suckers working overtime again. Personaly I can care less about how many tickets get sold or PPV buys. As long as the best fight the best the sport will survive.

 

Really, no change in emphasis at all. I said the victory in good fashion would 'mean more' that ticket sales, ie: attaching significance to both but ranking one above the other. I didn't say - nor to I believe - one aspect negates the other. They are both factors but winning is the factor with the greater impact.

That's a position I stand by and one you don't seem to disagree with, as you have declined the offer to do so.

 

By the same token though the sport will only survive if those taking part are sensibly advised from a financial point of view. Anyone can price themselves out of a fight by overrating their financial worth.

Boxing doesn't work like other sports in that respect. Serena Williams is still paid the same as the world number 200 if she wins Wimbledon, but if tennis did pay like boxing then you'd be mad to think Williams accepts the same pay as the unknown player just for turning up when she is so much more important to generating the all important financials.

I imagine it's been done to death on here but I just can't really accept any argument of equivalence regarding the value of Joshua in comparison to Wilder when the latter has never even been on PPV and the former sold out a stadium and did over 700k buys for a fight with Carlos Takam.

 

It's a sad sign of the decline of boxing in America. If it was booming like the UK or even just doing okay we'd be seeing some world records tumbling when the eventual AJ v Wilder fight happens.

 

7k is a typo, they actually sold 7. Now, Wilder and Fury are actively trying to sell more by approaching people in dark alleys and politely offering to buy 100 tickets or else.

 

Wrong again. Winning and viewing numbers will be the determining factors in future negotiations. If he wins and the numbers of people watching are poor then it won't give Wilder the bargaining power to get a better deal with Hearn. That was the point of your initial comment. Your trying to win a debate with flawed logic. Tell me if Wilder wins and the gate/ppv poor then what new does Wilder bring to the table. Apart from having Fury on his resume.

 

Correct. My point entirely, as expressed from the get-go. Winning and viewing numbers. In that order. Without the win, the viewing figures are secondary. He'd have lost and Fury's stock would have risen. Same viewing figures for both. lol

 

I think he will after Joshua comically KO's him and gifs of him being KO'ed becomes a huge internet meme. It will pervade society so much the term "Windmilled" will become common slang for being humiliated in public.

 

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