LOL Boxrec has Duran vs Hearns listed as a TKO

The referee waved it off, his seconds came in. It was a TKO rather than a KO because Duran wasn't counted out.

 

He could a counted to a 100 ..Duran was in laa laa land .

 

Yeah but that’s probably the way the commission recorded it based on their rules at the time. If so, it’s correct historically ... you can’t go back and say ‘well, they could have counted to 100 so we’ll just change the result.’

 

Does it matter? Most of us know how it ended. It is one of a handful of punches or endings that is embedded in my brain, you don’t get extra points for a ko over a tko in my estimation.

I really never gave any thought to it when reviewing their careers. Hearns obliterated him and it is maybe his signature win and a definer of his legacy.

 

You obviously dont know the difference between a TKO and a KO, so you're the one who looks stupid right now

 

Yeap don't really see the ts confusion.

 

Tyson - Holmes is also listed as a TKO because the ref waved it off immediately even though he could have counted 100 over Larry. It's only a technicality, everyone who's seen those fights knows what happened.

 

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It is recorded as a technical knockout. It is a TKO.
He's technically knocked out because the referee waves it off based on his judgment, not based on a count.
A KO is when the a fighter is counted out.

It makes sense to me anyway.

 

I don't think it's a dumb rule. There's no reason to change it.
If people want to go through every fight and say "oh, but this guy would never have beat a count !" it becomes completely subjective.

boxrec isn't consistent though.
Pacquiao-Hatton was recorded announced as a TKO too, but boxrec has it as a KO.
Unless the commission changed it to KO. (I wasn't even sure whether the referee was counting Hatton out or waving it off)

 

I do think stoppage results should be recorded differently though.
I don't have an issue with this type of win remaining a "TKO".
But I think stoppages that are due to cuts should be announced and recorded simply as "due to cuts" or "on cuts", for example.
It is a relevant statistic, how often a fight wins or loses on cuts.

 

Very strange thinking about it as a TKO...

 

I think the amount of pathetically "premature" stoppages in recent years has devalued and distorted "TKO" in people's minds though.

Dempsey-Willard and Louis-Schmeling 2 weren't "KO" either. They could be recorded as "TKO".

Marcel Cerdan actually floored Tony Zale in the same way Hearns did Duran, except the bell rang and the referee caught Zale and lessen the fall - because "saved by the bell" existed then.
Zale's cornerman peeled him off the floor and dragged him back to corner, and retired him at the beginning of the next round, making it "RTD" or "TKO".