I noticed, this is one of his weaknesses. The guy never tries to establish a jab or box using the jab from range. Nor does he even use the jab, FOR THE MOST PART, when closing distance. So what reason is there to have that lead hand extended? Most of the boxers who have their lead hand extended, are boxers who either box using their jab from long range, such as Kubrat Pulev and Wladimir Klitschko, and / or boxers who establish distance with their lead hand like Guillermo Rigondeaux. But Povetkin does neither. So what tactical / strategic reason is there for him to keep that lead hand extended, and leave himself open, when he can use a tighter high guard to remain more protected?
It's a classic lead hand game for a southpaw. Jabbing in an open guard (Southpaw vs Orthodox) match means both of their jabs are on the same side. They get in each others way. You play with it. Try and slap their hand out of they way to get a jab through, try to get underneath to the body jab, use it to feint and create openings. It shuts down the orthodox jab when done well, and you have to be ready to get behind that right should if the righty throws his left hook, but it also puts your chin behind that lead shoulder. So even if he does throw that hook best he can get is an eye socket or temple, but never a shot to the button. I'm going to stop here before I write another article. One is enough for today.
Good post but Povetkin isn't a southpaw bro haha. I also don't know if TC is talking about pawing, extended awkward feints, or just straight up measuring.
Nice, but Povetkin isn't a southpaw. I know what the topic starter means, it's his first decent topic though. Would like this to know as well.
possibly to occupy the right hand so he can advance without being nailed by a right either that or pull down his opponents hand to throw the right.
Lol for some I thought you were talking about Usyk. It was 8 Am and I'd just finished writing an article and my brain was fried. My bad folks.
You cant stablish the jabgame for **** when you are a drawf in your weight. I dont know what fight are you talking about but 99% sure povetkin didnt have the reach advantage if he was fighting like you say. If you dont have the reach advantage your jab is not very usefull. You can keep your lead hand extended, though, to occupy your oponent's right hand space, or to play the jab-the-jab game, a very useful strategy when you dont have the reach advantage plus you are the one putting pressure (when you jab the jab you make your oponent to pay a toll for jabbing, even if you pay it too, you put more pressure on him at the cost of putting more pressure on you too, very very very effective strategy used by a lot of champions). But it would be better if you tell us a specific fight, I guess, it would make it easier to answer your question. EDIT: escudo was right too, if he was fighting a soutpaw, the jab-game changes A LOT, and the way it is used has nothing to do with the regular orthodox jab-game. If you are fighting a southpaw you can use your lead hand like ants use their antenneas, as soon as you feel something with your lead hand you react. Rigo is a master of this, tbw.
Oh. And dont forget he'es from EE. EE fighters fight "by the book". No peekaboo, no philly, no anything... just by-the-book. And what does the book say about lead hand? hence, they do it. The same goes for every EE fighter, gg, usyz, wlad, lomo... they are all ultraorthodox in their guards, not in the sense of right-handed, but in the sense of fighting following what the book says. I think they do the right thing, you need to be extremelly good to fight off-the-book, and you pay it expensive in terms of balance if you have not mayweather-esque skills.
Povetkin keeps his lead hand out, in pretty much every fight. I could understand why he'd do it against southpaws. But I don't see the reasoning as to why he'd do it against even Joshua and Klitschko for example. My point is, Povetkin doesn't have a sufficiently long reach for the heavyweight division to be able to dominate with the jab, nor does he even have a top quality jab. So the question is, why does he stick his lead hand out, when he could keep it closer to his body / face to maintain a tighter guard and be more protected? False! Watch Evgeny Romanov fight. He is shorter than Povetkin and probably has an even shorter reach. He also competes in the heavyweight division. However, he doesn't have his lead hand extended in every fight, as Povetkin does. He usually keeps his lead hand closer to his face, maintaining a tighter and a more protective guard. So what reason is there for Povetkin to have his lead hand extended in every fight, when he has a shorter reach than pretty much every opponent and doesn't have a top quality jab or the ability to box from distance effectively?
That's all well and good! Using an extended lead hand against a southpaw as an orthodox boxer is reasonable and understandable. However, Povetkin does this against pretty much every opponent. Rather than keeping his left hand closer to his face to maintain a tighter guard, he sticks it out, despite the fact that he is not a predominant jabber or the fact that he doesn't control distance from range like Rigondeaux does for example.
Read my first post again. PS: OK, i'll elaborate. You are not less protected if you put your lead hand extended. You can use the lead hand to occupy the space of your oponent's right hand and make it impossible to your oponent to use it. That way you deflect the punch, instead of blocking it with your guard, in those weights there is always a part of the blocked punch that will be transmited to your head, we are not talking about flyweight where you can block anything paying no toll at all. We all have seen wilder knocking that guy out with a punch that was actually blocked, and koed him anyway. Nowadays nearly every HW choses to deflect his oponent's right hand instead of blocking it, Hughie, tyson,AJ, wilder, you will see all of the deflecting his oponent's right hand with his left hand. Probably that's what povektin was doing. I insist it will be easier if you specify a given fight, because every fight is different.
That's a fair point! I get the reasoning with this point! However, I'm still not entirely sold with the idea that having your lead hand extended as an orthodox boxer, makes you more protected against an orthodox opponent's right hand, compared to simply having the lead hand closer to your face and making a tighter guard. Let's take the Povetkin - Joshua fight as an example. Povetkin got caught by the right hand and that was the fight ending punch. And Povetkin literally had his lead hand extended for the whole fight (as he usually does). So that's an example of having the lead hand extended, failing to protect a boxer in the heavyweight division. Having a tight guard with the lead hand closer to the face, has actually proven to be very effective in the heavyweight division many times. I don't count Wilder's knockouts over opponents who blatantly looked like they took dives. Most of Wilder's knockout victims, especially those who were knocked out most impressively and brutally, had at least one thing in common, they fought with a loose guard with their hands down for the most part. That includes Artur Szpilka, Luis Ortiz and etc. Whilst the guys Wilder couldn't cleanly KO or even drop at all, such as Johann Duhaupas, Chris Arreola and Bermane Stiverne (in the first fight), all also have at least one thing in common, which is that they all had a tight guard with both their hands held high, close to their faces. Now, I'm not at all encouraging boxers to SOLELY rely on a high guard as their only form of defense. However, it should be prioritized over having the lead hand extended when one has a shorter reach than most of their opponents, when one doesn't have a very good jab and when one doesn't control distance too much, as is the case with Alexander Povetkin. On top of having a high guard, such a boxer should be encouraged to avoid punches via head movement and foot work, rather than having the lead hand extended in my opinion.