Prediction - Wilder vs Fury

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boy I agree! it's hard not to see Wilder's amateurish qualities shine forth, I get the feeling that against a fighter like say, Lennox Lewis he'd eat a booming right hand inside 4 and be out. Fury has never impressed me, I could never see why so many give him such accolades. He won the title against an old guy who couldn't pull the trigger with a rope. I think your right about the result too.
     
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  2. GALVATRON

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    Its always a double standard on here, its why its somewhat comical reading the match up in this section....all of a sudden the less skilled guy is favored over the more technical one? And they post about skillsets all day on here? lol

    The truth is wilder is more rusty because it will be 9/10 months come December he is out of the ring or so.....fury just went 10 rounds and he had a fight before that , that's 15 rounds to Wilders zero since his last fight.

    This will be the what the fight may come down to because boxing comes far easier to Fury not wilder who almost lost to active Ortiz who took a fight prior to Wilder and look what happened almost. He didn't even get many rounds in ,Fury has. it will be the longest in between fights wilder has went defending his title this cant possibly help with a guy that doesn't throw high volume.
     
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  3. mcvey

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    Wilder by stoppage late,imo.
     
  4. TBI

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    If Fury shows up in shape, he wins. He has better wheels, a better arsenal, and a better boxing brain.

    Wilder gets wild. Wilder gives the impression to me hes wild and amateurish and very sloppy, but it's worked so far, further than I would have thought. So with that, hes more effective than he seems.

    I like both guys personally.

    Fury has the right idea; avoid that right hand bomb. Thats it. Period. And I believe if he does that he wins, but that's the trick.

    Wilder swings from the floor and has no other real weapons than the right. He smothers his own punches and can be embarassingly sloppy.

    A world class fighter should be able to deal.


    Should.

    I'm looking for a late stoppage or decision for Fury or a clubbing sloppy stoppage early-mid rounds for Wilder.
     
  5. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    We'll see i don't think so though. To many factors going against him for me to pick him. Boxing is not usually won on needing a knockout to win if it's in the back of your head you won t win on points , unless Wilder gets a gift UD and if that's the case it's still an L in my book no different then Holmes vs Spinks 2.
     
  6. mcvey

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    I'm not a fan of either .Fury must be a night mare to fight though.Wilder is so sloppy its untrue,everything he throws is long and he windmills once he has a wobbled guy,he actually has a decent jab,but for a guy with 40 fights he is very crude.One thing makes him relevant, that get out of jail right hand.
    Both have pretty poor resumes ,imo.
     
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  7. GALVATRON

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    Both resumes are very poor, but the fights changes that moreso for Fury ,Wilder has defended belts several times ..Fury has no title defenses.

    The Best thing both have in common is their annoying , but for once I want Fury to win and think he will. either way if one or the other gets knocked out its still a win win for me, and or Wilder losing a decision will do as well.
     
  8. mcvey

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    I have to disagree Ali's 18 rds did not prepare him for Frazier after 3.5years .He lacked stamina and the confidence in his legs,and though he liked to eat Ali wasn't drinking and sniffing **** whilst he was inactive.
    Two stage managed virtual sparring sessions haven't prepared Fury adequately imo.
    If he was really serious I think he would have had a couple of more tune ups against better comp.
    This has pension plan written all over it imo.
     
  9. GALVATRON

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    Ali lost the second fight to if you add body shots and solid punches landing. Ali lost the first fight bc he couldn't fight on the inside...Fury can .Style wise as I stated Wilder isn't a pressure fighter nor inside one .That fight happened already so not sure where it comes into play here?

    Most would favor Ali over Frazier despite two fights to see bc maybe Ali on his best day would win easier but, that Fury fight is based on a power puncher from the outside who's not a good control jabber which isn't good at all if he's fighting a taller very good control jabber capable to out think him .That's been Wilder s saving grace but he doesn't have that either here.
     
  10. RockyJim

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    Or.....it could be a 12 round snooze fest!!!
     
  11. Mendoza

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    I have reason to believe this fight might be postponed.
     
  12. The Long Count

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    Wilder. Fury can’t punch at all anymore, which means he would have to win a decisicion. Wilder has only let one man go the distance. Odds are he gets Fury at some point probably trailing on the cards at the point and stops him.
    Beating this version of Fury doesn’t ass much to Wilder imo.
     
  13. Saad54

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    Although I picked Fury by decision, I watched some highlights from his title winning effort over Wlad. Fury looked like he has no punching power and weird punch technique. Still, he should be able to befuddle the crude Wilder.
     
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  15. Mendoza

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    Final thoughts under the assumption Fury isn't fat.

    Prediction: It’s not an easy fight to pick. I’m leaning toward Fury on points as Wilder just isn’t a boxer, and will have to land a wild bomb late, which he could. Fury really hasn’t looked good in his two comeback fights, but I’m more than sure he’s a better boxer than the types who were even or ahead of Wilder on the score cards until Wilder landed a bomb late. While a little unstable outside the ring, I think Fury is smart enough in it and use his extremely long arms and height to stay out of Wilder’s range.

    Will it be a good fight?: If Fury wins, it will be tactical and average type of fight to watch. If Wilder wins, I think its via stoppage. I care for neither man, and hope the winner is via KO or wide UD, as the loser is not likely to come back.

    The Judging: The judging has been pretty bad lately, flipping what most people see as 7-5, the other way around. Sometimes we see a junk card from outer space or a card that with raises eyebrows where a judge scored a late round for a guy who most thought lost that round, sealing a win or draw in a close fight. Historically, when a British fighter travels to the U.S. to face an American opponent - and vice versa it's not uncommon for the resident fighter to receive good ol' fashioned 'home cooking' from the judges. This will favor Wilder.

    The chances for BS:
    Fury has tested positive before, and I think both fighters have a higher than normal chance of a DQ. Let's hope neither happens.

    Aftermath: The winner here is probably going to get more credit than he deserves. I actually think Wilder and Fury are past their peak performances, and will be dusted by Joshua. I hope the winner faces Joshua soon, as it will define the champion of the times.