Why come AJ is not more like his fellow Countrymen Lennox Lewis, who fought EVERYONE!!!

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  1. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Yeah, except for the gold medal, future hall of famer, former world champion, current world champion in a unifying bout and 2 mandatories attributed to the other 3 guys :lol::lol::lol:
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    to be fair, most of those people are 2 people.
     
  3. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Barry Hearn stated his opinion, Eddie and Joshua will decide what's what, but where did Barry Hearn go? Oh that's right, He went and talked to Finkel face to face in the US.

    Have Team Wilder come over to the UK to try and strike a deal? Where's Finkel? Has he travelled for talks? Nope, so how much do they really want it?

    They do their business over twitter or Wilder does it with emails full of spelling mistakes.

    Yes, that 50 million offer was originally sent by Wilder himself, in an email with such terrible grammar and a series of spelling mistakes that Hearn thought it was a joke/prank. This is the level of professionalism we are taking about here.

    Also it isn't "Skirting around the issue" the fact is AJ is signed with Sky Sports, Team Wilder didn't have the money, they reached out to FW and FW reached out to BT Sports.

    There is no way on earth that BT Sport, the main rival of Sky Sports, is paying all that money out and giving them shared rights, not happening, that's a fact.

    And if BT wanted to sell them the shared rights then the offer was also coming from AJ's side of things, so the offer not only didn't come from Team Wilder but if Sky wanted to show a fighter they have a deal with they have to pay too?

    So Team Wilder wanted other people to pay for the deal for AJ. It isn't hard to see how this works.

    Also even if the offer was legit the offer didn't even come from Team Wilder did it? Also If it did then Wilder should be asking why he was earning 2 million a fight.


    Wilder was offered 15 million by Hearn and he called it "peasant money", this coming from a man who's highest purse is around 2.5 million, this coming from a man who hasn't had a PPV fight, a man who is seriously struggling and it looks like can't sell out a 20k arena Vs Fury, yet refusing that offer isn't a duck

    No my friend, you can try and spin it any way you want to, Wilder is a joker and you only have to look at how this Fury fightnis being sold and promoted to see his Team are a bigger bunch of jokers.
     
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  4. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    I stopped reading once you started pretending the 50 million wasn't real. Adam Smith, Barney Francis & Eddie himself have acknowledged the money was there. Heck, Bazza was on sky sports last month or so saying that the 50 million THEY TURNED DOWN will look like peanuts when the fight is made.

    This shows me you aren't objective and I'm wasting my time.
     
  5. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Where did I say "the money wasn't real" I said it wasn't directly from Team Wilder, they reached out to FW who in turn reached out to BT.

    Impossible to sign because of Joshua's Sky deal, you know that's a fact, I don't know why this gets ignored and dismissed, BT would want exclusive rights if they are pumping millions in to a fight where they don't work with the fighter.

    Simply because Sky would slice their figures in half (at best).

    And no comment on Wilders having to earn more than the 15 million against Fury than he was offered by Hearn?

    Wilder has turned down offers, so has he ducked the fight too?


    No mentions of Finkel not travelling to try and make a deal? No mention of Barry Hearn travelling to the US for talks?


    You ignored the other post earlier, you only seem to state opinions and never answer any simple questions, I think you're the one wasting time.
     
  6. kirk

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    The guys only has had 22 fights so far, and already has Wlad, Parker, Whyte and Povetkin on his resume.

    Go compare that with Lewis's first 22 fights and get back to me.

    Hes doing fine.
     
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  7. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    i dont like to compare past to present.
    fighters are a different breed now then in the past (whether you think they are better now or in the past is up to you)
    deals were made easier back in the day than now, quite clearly.
    The money is bigger now so the deal would be harder to strike. simple.

    Joshua is moving along just fine and has fought the people presented to him. Lewis fought who he had to to get to the position he got to. simple as that, i dont know how people can justify their opinion on it based on different era's?


    however wilder and joshua are in the same era so compare away guys and gals.
     
  8. archdeacon99

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    Joshua winning the title from the likes of Charles Martin and Fury`s vacated title against 41 yr old Wlad coming off a loss Klitschko and defending against the likes of Whyte who`s claim to fame was fighting AJ in the amateurs, [that was the only interesting factor], a dodgy referee stoppage over Takam, then a scared timid non punching performance against Parker for another of Furys` belts it doesnt inspire it is nothing more than hype.
     
  9. archdeacon99

    archdeacon99 Member Full Member

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    Wrong, He fought Lewis fearful of a good opponent that he had to be as good as possible that day. He fought Williams 2 years later thinking it was going to be a quick blowout, he said before hand that Danny would **** his pants. He had already turned down his option of a Lewis rematch and thought this was an easy 1 round payday. He apparently injured his knee in the first round!
     
  10. archdeacon99

    archdeacon99 Member Full Member

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    Look at Wlads record of beating top ten fighters, but so what, bunch of nobodies like the Matchroom hype jobs.
     
  11. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes AJ has a goof resume

    BUT he's ducking the 1 guy who can challenge him

    WILDER

    Thats the point
     
  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Pretty harsh on Joshua to compare his career with the completed one of a ATG. Pretty harsh on Lewis to compare his stellar career with one that's only half way finished.

    Let's see how AJ deals with the loss/losses he will take, let's see him beat in rematches the men who beat him. Let's see how he deals with losing the sense of invincibility an unbeaten fighter possesses. Let's see how he deals with fighting prime boxers while he's older and on the decline.

    And let's see how good he can really become - AJ may have some more developing to do. The comparison is way too soon. As it stands though, prime (even slightly post-prime) Lewis still kicks his butt...
     
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  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    First of all - even if AJ did fight everyone... you wouldn't be impressed or satisfied. So who cares. I say AJ keeps making his money, and you can stay a broke hater on this board.

    Secondly - I want to see Whyte fight AJ, I think Whyte has a strong chance to beat AJ. And he will suprise everyone if they fought in April.

    By the way, does money mean anything to you? Have you ever shortchanged yourself in a financial situation? Worked for less money than you could get?

    You are a hypocrite child. Start acting like an adult.
     
  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Straight up hater thread by a little punk kid.
     
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  15. Scissors

    Scissors Posts are sponsored by Matchroom Full Member

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    So it’s AJs fault that the current top 10 aren’t the best? Ok.