Why do Deontay Wilder fans conveniently keep ignoring fights where his power was exposed?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Luis Fernando, Nov 20, 2018.


  1. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nah, that is an invalid comparison.
    Besides that Chuvalo was stopped due to an injury, not put down in a looong career...
    You have no answer to the many fighters who Wilder failed to KO as early or with as few punches as other fighters-including some who do not hurt that hard-with flush, wind-up windmill shots, proves his power is at best very good, but not the best around & not highly unusual.

    Your analogy to Chuvalo would be better if you chose a fighter who was sometimes put down or knocked out by guys that other fighters stood up to, while taking the same or somewhat less shots.

    Since Chuvalo stood up to punishment better than anyone in his era, & arguably in boxing history & was never down at any level or sparring (unless we decide that the one slip was a kd, even then he is among the top candidates for Best Whiskers Ever...

    It is a totally unfair comparison.
     
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    Why would you accuse anyone of hate, when we se no evidence of personal antipathy, & you do not address any of the evidence about Wilder not hurting or taking much longer to put people away than some others?

    If anything, refusing to address politely stated evidence & then unjustly assuming hate & pathoklogizing everyone on the other sides may well come from at least a mild version of hate.
     
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  3. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    It's definitely illegal to hit your opponent with the inner surface of your hand. Windmilling those kind of shots is brutal if it connects clean.
     
  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not to forget to mention that many of Wilder's windmill punches lead to rabbit punches (punches behind the ear / back of the head). Those punches are indeed illegal!
     
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  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This thread is for those who think and claim Wilder has superhuman, supernatural or even the most power compared to any other boxer or heavyweight today.

    I think it's fair to say that when Wilder is failing to totally blast away scrubs like Johann Duhaupas, Eric Molina and Chris Arreola in SUPER, and I mean in ABSOLUTE SUPER QUICK TIME with ABSOLUTE EASE, then Wilder's power does not qualify of being deserving to be rated that highly.

    It's not like these guys haven't been stopped / KO'ed more brutally by other boxers (who's power isn't rated anywhere near as high as Wilder's).
     
  6. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    It is 100 percent reasonable to suggest he has the most power amongst the current HW's.
     
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  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Based on what evidence? Having fought for 10 years and for 40 fights, I can count on only one hand the number of opponents Wilder has KO'ed, that nobody else has ever KO'ed. That number becomes even less, if we exclude injury stoppages and premature stoppages.

    So to claim he has MOST power, is a claim that requires evidence of the HIGHEST ORDER!
     
  8. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    They think that forearms to the backside of the head counts as clean punches.
     
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  9. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    You seemed to have a agenda Fendango. I can't believe you even doubt the power of the bronze bomber. That brutal knockout of Stiverne and Ortiz, was devastating.. Just imagine that Povetkin being on the end of that. He couldn't get to just 8 rounds with the bodybuilder Joshua. You seriously think he can fend off a even more dangerous adversary like Wilder. Your faith is misplaced. I seriously hope Alexander doesn't retire next year, maybe he can be a sacrificial lamb for the bomb squad, lol.
     
  10. Zakman

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    I'd probably have to go with Wilder. Ruiz was THAT bad. And his whiskers weren't the greatest either, which is why he violated the rules against excessive holding and engaged in other chicanery like faking low blows to avoid getting stopped.

    Of course, if Wilder happens to hit him with a body shot and put him on the canvas, like Thunder, Holyfield and Johnson did, then you would have to expect Ruiz to deliver one of his ham acting jobs to get the bogus low blow call.
     
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  11. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh, I have an 'agenda' when I objectively expose Deontay Wilder's punching power and prove how lacking it is. But when other posters state Wilder has superhuman or supernatural punching power, do you ever call them out for having an 'agenda'?

    Wilder knocking out Povetkin is supposed to prove what exactly? That he only is able to KO small and old, ancient opponents? How about he try to get his hands on an actual iron chinned opponents who are also in their prime (or maybe not prime)? How about Mariusz Wach? Wilder is going to end up breaking his hands permanently when he lands his max powered windmills on Wach's face to absolute no avail.

    How about Jarrell Miller? You know durable boxers give Wilder nightmares as he avoids all of them. Johann Duhaupas, who has slightly above average durability, literally proved to the whole world that Wilder couldn't even CRACK AN EGG (at that level). Miller or Wach will make Wilder's power look like they are coming from a feather fisted 10 year old.
     
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  12. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Does anyone else currently have any more than him?
     
  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll take the bait.

    I'm not sure if Wilder is necessarily the most powerful puncher in today's division, but if he isn't, he's on a very short list.

    :smoking:
     
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  14. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    He is the biggest cheater at least. :smoking:
     
  15. Zakman

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    Based on what??? Knocking out the 30 or so stiffs he fought for the first five years of his career? Or the carefully selected name opponents or mediocre journeymen (many of whom were precisely selected because they didn't take a good punch) that he has fought since?

    When we look at Wilder's record, it is easy to see that his supposed punching power is as fraudulent as the rest of his manufactured, bogus career.
     
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