prime pacquiao vs lomachenko

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    He should of got the nod IMO. I don't think that's an especially out there opinion.
     
  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    But Pac won and many thought it was deserved
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You seem angry.
     
  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    You seem sad.
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marquez is more then a technician. He is a legit power puncher. Loma is not.
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Lomachenko is obviously not a power puncher but I'm still waiting for someone to just walk straight through him so think his apparent lack of power is overstated.

    FWIW I can't believe I'm having to so vigorously defend not thinking a Pac win is a 100% formality against an operator as good as Lomachenko.
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Were any of Lomachenkos previous opponents named Manny Pacquiao? And Salido roughed up a 26 year old Loma too.

    The power differential between Marquez and Loma is enormous. Marquez was a bona fide legitimate banger.

    Marquez fought Salido too and the punches he landed looked like they could set off bombs.
     
  8. Paranoid Android

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    In III and IV, Marquez was literally popping speed bags. Chemically-enhanced JMM punched 3X as hard as Lomachenko.

    Lower weights, Marquez punched 2X harder than Lomachenko.
     
  9. Manfred

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    Pac was throwing bricks and had too much dog in him for Loma to deal with. He would have been hurting Loma in spots where Loma didn't know he had. Prime Pac was a monster man. I don't think that Loma could have took the punishment that Marquez took and survived.
     
  10. Paranoid Android

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    This. Pacquiao would have walked through Lomachenko's shots to land his own and I don't think Lomachenko would have survived more than six rounds. Lomachenko didn't even hurt Rigondeaux, but he did make Rigondeaux's heart give out.

    Pacquiao would have KO'd Rigondeaux with the first shot above jab level.
     
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  11. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Christ.

    Firstly, I don't think the Lomachenko that we saw fight Salido is the best version of him as a pro.

    Secondly I don't give a **** who you are, if the referee is allowing your opponent to continually throw lowblows with impunity then you're going to have problems. If Salido had made weight and not blatantly cheated his way to a razor thin decision then you'd all have a point but he didn't so I'm not sure why people get so worked up about that.
     
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  12. DonnyMo

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    The OP asked who we prefered to watch (not who would win prime v. prime), but that question is hard to answer. Pac brought the fire and fury, Lomachenko is a technician like we've really never seen before. Love watching both.

    As far as who would win....it would have to be at 130lbs or 126lbs. We only saw Pac briefly at 135lbs (vs. David Diaz) and he was absolutely lethal. Loma was not a physical enough man to deal with the power and physicality of Pacquiao at lightweight. His proportions were not nearly as large and he couldnt defeat him at this weight. It would be close on the cards but Pac's KD's or KO would tilt the fight.

    At 126lbs or 130lbs it's anybody's fight. Think I favor Loma. Pac can't cut off the ring to save his life, this would be a huge negative vs Loma. Vasyl would fight off the back foot and have him reaching for every punch just like ROIDquez had him doing. Pac very much needs a fighter who comes to him, or at least meets him in the middle.

    People in this thread pretending like Loma isn't quick or fast. Ha! Linares and Rigo are both cat quick and couldnt land a glove on Vasyl.

    Also, it must be said that Pac always fought very well against other southpaws when matched with them. Roach and Pac are both on record saying they prefered southpaws back in the day.
     
  13. tinman

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    Id like to see Salido walk a 26 year old Pacquiao down and try and low blow him. Pac would send him to the hospital.

    Loma does not punch hard enough for Pac.
     
  14. tinman

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    Marquez would batter people unmercifully.