If Canelo won the GGG rematch, than Pacquiao won against Mayweather

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  1. BCS8

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    All the Clenelo fans did, though.

    Amongst other things.

    He did fight well off the backfoot. In fact he landed heavier shots on Clenelo than he landed in the first fight and he made him miss worse, too.

    Golovkin fought FAR BETTER off the backfoot than Clenelo did. He contested centre ring at all times and never had to resort to running backwards like Alvarez had to. He never got trapped on the ropes looking for a way out. And, more importantly, HE OUTLANDED CANELO AGAIN. Remember "effective aggression"? Canelo's aggression wasn't effective if he was getting outboxed.

    :lol: You're spinning like a top.

    Another 2 rounds and he would have placed in the Boston Marathon.

    And yet ... yet, Golovkin landed MORE punches and he landed HARDER punches on Clenelo in the rematch.

    Here's a little sample:

    https://depor.com/full-deportes/con...n-uppercut-kazajo-noquea-mexicano-video-87967
     
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  2. BCS8

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    ^ I like that slo-mo GGG uppercut that rang Clenelo's bell. He's probably still seeing stars.
     
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  3. mirkofilipovic

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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :qmeparto: GGG landed the heavier shots and he made him miss worse ? I don't know what fight you thought you were watching, but it definitely wasn't Canelo vs GGG . You must be confusing that with another fight.

    "Contesting centre ring" doesn't mean jack. Canelo clearly went to the ropes voluntarily in rounds 4 and 5 in the first fight. There's no way you can argue GGG trapped him there. And what happened when Canelo was on the ropes in those rounds? GGG was not able to make Canelo pay. Canelo picked off the shots, countered and after about 30 seconds moved off the ropes. I don't think you understand what being trapped on the ropes actually is. To be trapped on the ropes you generally need to be exhausted or not have your legs anymore. Like Usyk, he had Bellew trapped on the ropes. Bellew couldn't get off and he got KTFO. Canelo was never trapped on the ropes vs GGG, and I challenge you to provide video of evidence of when Canelo was trapped. (I'll be waiting a long time for this "evidence" lmao)

    lol maybe you're right about that, but that Boston Marathon style of Canelo clearly did frustrate GGG. So much so that he complained about it and made a stink about how Canelo didn't fight "Mexican style" lol. How'd that work out for ya : Canelo gave him his "Mexican style" in the rematch !!
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was a decent shot, but looking at it at that angle it really didn't have that much impact. It really just grazed the side of Canelo's face. It didn't have anywhere near the kind of impact that Canelo's uppercuts in the middle rounds in the first fight had on GGG.
     
  6. ellerbe

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    Shadow is right here.
     
  7. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    gg's fan are as annoying as pacman fans. Actually, they are probably the same idiots.
     
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  8. Flamazide

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    Okay, I'm not reading this past the sentence I have bolded. What I am saying is what I said. Both men fought well and it isn't appreciated. What part of both don't you understand? I don't understand how you as a grown man can have Canelo's dick lodged so deep down your throat that you behave this way. Even if it you're trolling the amount of effort you put in is insane. You are actually a crazy person.

    Every single one of your posts just tells me that you don't even watch boxing matches. You just watch Canelo.
     
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  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't have any problem with what you're saying here. I agree both men fought well. I just find it humorous how now GGG fans are the ones talking about how much they appreciate fighting off the backfoot, ONLY after GGG fought that way in the rematch.

    Where was this a year ago? Hardly anyone on this forum appreciated how well Canelo fought in the first fight. I was one of the guys who did, and I went to great lengths to point it out and I was met with incredible resistance in talking about it. That's great that you appreciate the finer points of boxing now, but it's hard to take you seriously when you're agreeing with statements like GGG fought better in the rematch than Canelo did in the first fight.

    This is a very poor display of posting and frankly with statements like this you lose all credibility. This has zero to do with being a fan of Canelo. Yes I was rooting for Canelo, but that doesn't stop me from being unbiased when it comes to appreciating the finer points of what both men did over 24 rounds. I gave GGG plenty of credit for how he fought the rematch, and how he rallied. I recognize how close both fights were and am very respectful to anyone who had GGG winning. All I'm trying to do is discuss what happened and point out who did what better. GGG clearly showed he was better at landing the jab. Canelo clearly showed he was better at landing power punches and body shots. When it comes to fighting off the backfoot though, you can't tell me GGG showed he is better than Canelo in that department. The footwork Canelo showed in the first fight is far superior to the footwork GGG showed in the rematch, and it was far more effective in neutralizing GGG's attack and ability to land clean than GGG was in neutralizing Canelo's attack in the rematch. You can disagree with that all you want but that's what happened. Making it about my "fandom" of Canelo is taking the easy way out. I can play that game too.
     
  10. C.J.

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    The only idiots on here are the ones hailing Moonelo as their champ ROFL
     
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  11. Flamazide

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    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Your entire perspective on any issue is "Golovkin fan, Canelo fan". It's not "boxing fan". Because that doesn't exist to you.

    Skimmed. You can't play that game because literally no one is as obsessive as you are. You are literally the only person that is this weird on this entire forum. Seem help. I'm not joking. You have a problem and it is alarming.
     
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  12. shadow111

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    C.J., Canelo is the Champ. I know how much you hate it, but that is Factual ! He is the Unified Middleweight Champ. The idiots are the ones who continue to cry about that and deny reality!
     
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    The only idiots are you trolls that
    STILL call Moonelo champ
    He stolr those titles with the aid of a blatantly corrupt State Commission as everyone knows
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm a boxing fan last time I checked. My perspective is very simple : To Point out what happened.

    Oh dear, you want to talk about obsessive : how about the constant cries of "robbery" from GGG fans. You said yourself that "the only robbery is that everyone just ignores how well both men actually boxed". I don't know why you fail to see that I'm one of the only persons who from the beginning haven't ignored that.

    I went out of my way to point out how well Canelo boxed in the first fight when hardly no one on here gave him credit for it. So as much as you try to misrepresent me, for being a Canelo fan, I've actually shown that I appreciate how well both men boxed and have actually given credit for that. Don't get stuck on the hypocrisy that I point out from the GGG fanbase as far as giving credit for fighting off the backfoot. That still hasn't stopped me from crediting GGG for showcasing his boxing skills in the rematch. But I can't in my right mind say that what he did was better than what Canelo did in the first fight. And despite what you want to believe, it's not because I'm a fan of Canelo. It's because of how Canelo controlled the early rounds of the first fight, and how he set the tone of the first fight, how he set traps and frustrated GGG, how he landed big power punches while his back was on the ropes, when GGG tried to walk him down.

    Nothing like that happened in the rematch. All you can do is try to act like I'm such a huge Canelo fan that I can't see what GGG is doing, and it's pathetic. You're doing that because you have no other outlet to counter my points and the truth about what actually happened over 24 rounds.
     
  15. shadow111

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    I'm sorry you feel that way C.J. I know you are sad GGG lost his belts. But there was no robbery in the rematch. Both fighters boxed well over 24 rounds. But in the rematch Canelo was the better man. I'm sorry, I know how much that hurts you, but that's what happened.

    Canelo is the Unified Middleweight Champ. Saying that isn't idiotic, that's Factual ! He got the belts, GGG lost his titles to Canelo, FAIR and SQUARE!