Top 10/15 Southpaws Ever?

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  1. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    Had a quick go at a list when I should have been working this morning:
    1. Whitaker
    2. Hagler
    3. Pacquiao
    4. Saldivar
    5. Lomachenko
    6. Corbett III
    7. Miller
    8. Basillio
    9. Flowers
    10. Tendler
    And then my numbers 11 to 15 selected from candidates such as Papp, Usyk, De La Hoya, Elorde, Calzaghe, Hamed, Galaxy, Rigondeux, Camacho, etc.
    I suppose I'm factoring in achievements somewhat (about 25%?), but mostly basing the list on H2H at prime weights (75%?) - which I understand involves far too much guesswork for many.
    Anyway, ... Any alternative lists? Or improvements? Cheers
     
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  2. Unforgiven

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    Michael Nunn possibly deserves a mention.
     
  3. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a really tough list to make. I'd pitch Manny as the best southpaw ever, even though I think Whitaker and Hagler will get the majority of votes for the top spot. He was 2-0 against Barrera, one of those coming when Barrera was prime and top 3 p4p, 2-1 against an admittedly worn out Morales, and 2-1-1 against JMM.

    I think Floyd and Manny both get unnecessary stick for their fight not happening when it should have, and that overshadows the work both did during that time. Beating David Diaz, Oscar DLH, Hatton, and Cotto in the way he did is an incredible achievement, and the successive wins over Mosley, Clottey, Margarito, and Bradley (2x) all betrayed a slow decline but add depth to his resume nonetheless. Throw in the miscellaneous scalps he had from flyweight on up and its a brilliant resume.

    On the basis of best wins, Manny has a clear edge for me, but on the downside he has the most you can critique, in terms of losing to a tired Erik Morales, being so iconically sparked by JMM, the questions about PED use, and the Floyd fight materializing too late. Whitaker jumped divisions with ease, but he tended to coast while Manny accelerated. Hagler had an amazing run to the title and a reign that was so perfectly executed that it seems almost scripted in retrospect, but he never left his division, and choking against SRL (ableit weird circumstances) is the biggest moment of his career in the minds of many.
     
  4. Xplosive

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    Lomachenko isnt even the best southpaw in boxing today.
     
  5. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great list
     
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  6. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    Fair enough.
    I guess I've been influenced by the amateur record, which also caused me to consider Papp and Rigo, too.
     
  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do agree with your top 4 though, as well as the order. Whitaker, Hagler, Pac, and Saldivar are the four greatest southpaws.
     
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  8. Saintpat

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    For sure Sweet Pea at No. 1 IMO.

    Pac No. 2. Hagler 3. Then it gets tougher.
     
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  9. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Basilio???
     
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  10. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yoko Gushiken #1

    Frank "The Animal" Fletcher
    Mustafa Hamsho
    Rafael Limon
    Cornelius BOZA-Edwards
    Rolando Navaratte
    Sandy Koufax
    Steve Carlton
    Ken "The Snake" Stabler R. I. P.
    Marvin Johnson
    Hector Comancho
    Laing
    Tiger Flowers
    Young Corbett 2
    Manny Pacquioa
    Naseem Hamed
    Joe Montana
    Joe Thomas
    Yoko
     
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  11. mcvey

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    Basilio was orthodox.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Kirkland Laing? He was orthodox.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    Usyk?
     
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  14. Flea Man

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    De La Hoya was a converted southpaw....but he wasn’t a southpaw!
     
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  15. Flea Man

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    I wouldn’t have Khaosai over someone like....Rodolfo Martinez.