Jarrell Miller has already served a drugs ban

I mean let's be honest, does it really matter. Jarrell Miller is overweight anyways, and it doesn't matter how many drugs are in his system, his technique is pathetic and sloppy, and he'll get seriously exposed against any of the top 10 (Even Breazeale has a chance and Breazeale is useless)

 

I didn't know twinkies were a performance enhancing substance.

 

He's obviously on steroids. Look at how thick his body has grown. The man is about 6'4 tall.
He's fat as **** as well.
But then he was always fat as ****, even when he was skinny !

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So obviously on 'roids.

 

Lol, ya'll realize that Miller tested positive for Methylhexanaemine right? A flower oil that is used in dietary supplements, sports supplements, energy drinks, sold over the counter all around the world 100% legally. The hilariousness of the ignorance on this thread is that Methylhexanaemine has a very minute thermogenic effect, its describe by WADA themselves as a 'weak stimulant', caffeine, or a cup of coffee/green tea, is much stronger. Thus ya'll claiming Miller is doping to get big, yet the substance he tested positive for is completely legal, weaker than coffee/green tea, has a very subtle weight loss effect, and is in products in virtually every supermarket and pharmacy around the world. Hardcore doper alright . Miller flipped the bird at the WBC because the promoters who own the WBC, thus the WBC drug testing program, wanted to own him as well. Now why would Miller give a damn about the WBC when he's told he'll never fight Wilder, like Whyte, unless he gives some of the worst and most corrupt promoters in boxing his contract, and a huge chunk of his money. Hhhhmmm gee, I wonder?

 

Lol, over the same 10 year period from age 20 to 30 I went from 71kg (156p) to 115kg (253p). Gain of 100 pounds of muscle. Its called filling out mate, and you really fill out when you powerlift like myself or Miller has done over a period of years. Go read some exercise physiology, nutrition, and lift weights you clown.

 

I've been powerlifting since the early 1990s, you clown, so save your BS for someone else, kid.

Pics of you at 253 pounds of solid muscle, or STFU.

 

It's actually comical that "but ... he powerlifts" would even be offered as a reason as to why he's not on steroids , since the vast majority of successful powerlifters are on steroids.

 

If you claim to have been power lifting for 30 odd years yet think 253lbs is impressive, I severely doubt youve power lifted a day in your life. 7 or 8 guys who lift at my gym alone are far bigger than me through putting on the bulk, how havent you seen this in all your years power lifting? Push ups and sit ups on the veranda isnt powerlifting lad, get your hand out of your pants. Your defaming athletes by claiming their on steroids, got any facts to back up your claims? Or is it just your little man sydrome heresay, one day claiming hes fat,lazy and overweight, next day claiming hes a drug abuser and a cheat, cause you cant get big yourself? Pics and proof of Miller doing roids and ill send you all the gym wank bank images you need, until then, STFU with your BS running down clean athletes and powerlifting fairytales.

 

Which is where the thread began. It's certainly unfair to convict a man on suspicion, or circumstantial evidence, but suspicion is inevitably going to follow a man who makes such significant size increases or who seems to have unusually high levels of endurance for such a huge man.

So we can at least say that it's a pity that Miller doesn't show a different attutude towards the testing regime and some understanding of why its there and the protection it should offer to clean athletes.

Saying that you don't want to be followed round by a man with a cup is redundant. No-one does, including Miller's peers who will be facing him in the ring. They do it however as they understand that't part of the price for being an elite athlete these days. Why can't Miller do the same?

 

The mistake is made in assuming Miller won't be apart of the WBC program because he doesn't want to be drug tested year round. Miller fights for WBO and WBA regional titles and fights regularly, he gets drug tested plenty, and with the WBA adopting VADA, he will be getting drug tested by VADA without the WBC, as well as USADA, UKAD and WADA, the actual anti-doping authorities.

So ask yourself, if hes already getting drug tested regularly, why doesn't he want to join the WBC program? If you haven't noticed for the last couple years, Miller has been exposing WBC corruption constantly. He's had serious problems with seriously corrupt individuals who own and control the WBC, who want to own and corrupt him. He's Americas premier heavyweight, a cash machine for criminals.

So when he says Washington getting moved up 16 places in the rankings without even fighting anyone to be Wilders opponent is corrupt as he should be the opponent, he's exposing WBC corruption.

When he says Wilder fighting no contenders, mandatories, or #1 contenders and calling Wilder a WBC protected fraud, he's exposing WBC corruption.

When he says Luis Ortiz is getting framed so Stiverne can slot in, he's exposing WBC and Don King corruption.

When he says Fury getting put straight in the WBC rankings without being apart of the WBC clean boxing program is BS and a double standard, hes exposing WBC corruption.

When he says Canelo getting pardoned by WBC president Suliaman hours after failing a drug test is BS, hes exposing WBC corruption.

Miller is constantly dissing and flipping the bird at corruption within the WBC. Has been for years. Since the WBC is as much owned by Don King as it is Suliaman, and this isn't just me talking, this is FBI investigations and entire wikipedia pages dedicated to this topic, let's look at some of their activity over recent years.

Tarver vs Kayode for IBO cruiserweight belt. Tarver goes positive first time ever against Don King fighter.

Ortiz vs Kayode for WBA interim heavyweight title. Ortiz goes positive for Nandrolone in one test against a Don King fighter. I don't know if you know much about Nandrolone, but its the dumbest drug to ever take, stays in your system for 12 -18 months with only the tiniest amounts. Ortiz never tested positive in any of his previous or thereafter tests.

Wilder vs Scott in WBC elimination. Blatant dive. Suliaman and King have deep connections with organized crime. Once again, FBI investigations, Wikipedia pages etc on the topic. They have been doing this for years.

Wilder vs Povetkin for WBC heavyweight title. Povetkin goes positive first time ever just before the fight after 10 years at the top of world boxing, none of the previous tests or thereafter was positive. If the tests were conducted under WADA protocols, it would have been negative.

Povetkin vs Stiverne. Povetkin goes positive again in single test vs Don King fighter. None the previous tests or thereafter were positive. Once again, if the tests were conducted under WADA protocols, it would have been negative. Ironically Stiverne goes positive as well, however, Povetkin is removed from the rankings, and Stiverne is automatically made #1 contender mandatory.

Wilder vs Ortiz/Stiverne. Ortiz gets stitched up through paperwork, and what do you know, a Don King fighter waltzes straight in and takes another dive.

Bryan vs Flores. 2 Don King fighters/journeymen fight for the WBA interim belt, despite Miller being mandatory.

Charr vs Oquendo. Charr miraculously goes positive in A sample, yet negative in B sample. Once again there's King pushing Byran vs Corbin for the WBA title while Miller is still the mandatory.

Miller vs Dinu. The 2 highest ranked WBA contenders originally meant to fight for WBA title. But was revoked as WBA only wanted to give Charr 6 months suspension, despite stripping Browne after he was spiked just 2 years earlier.

Now I'm not one for accusing someone without any proof. But when Miller says he wants nothing to do with the WBC clean boxing program after speaking openly about the corruption and criminality within the organization, I tend to believe him that its probably a very good idea for a man in his position who refuses to bow down or allow himself to be corrupted by these individuals to stay well clear and seek out other paths, like, I don't know, Eddie Hearn and the UK, unless he wants to find himself on the wrong end of such clear corruption and criminality. The greatest myth in the world is that boxing is a gentleman's sport. It's not, its a sport of organized crime. And if Miller says he doesn't want to **** in a certain cup because he's worried and paranoid its gonna get spiked by extremely powerful organized criminals who he disses and refuses to serve, I tend to look at the circumstances behind his decision rather than simply scream PED cheat or the next WBC conspiracy theory that comes along to try and defame him.

 

That, and he's a damn 300 pound volume puncher. Nobody in the division throws as many punches per round as Miller.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-s...tes-among-worlds-top-seven-heavyweight-boxers

Click punches per round to display.

 

You're a fool. You clearly have either 1. no knowledge of powerlifting, or 2. you mistake me for a mug ... otherwise why you be trying to Bull**** me by pretending like steroids aren't rife in powerlifting ?
Listen, son, you're out of your depth. Like I said, I've been in powerlifting for decades.
Yes, loads of powerlifters are 253 (115kg) pounds or more, so what ? I never suggested otherwise. I'm telling you right now, 100 pounds of pure muscle gain, over any amount of years, is almost unheard of, even with gear. And for a steroid-free lifter - it's safe to say it's impossible.

The weight gain is not uncommon, but sorry to break it to you, it's a lot of fat.
Most 115kg powerlifters are (presumably lifting in 105 or 110 class) FAT, and/or on steroids.

Little man syndrome ? I don't have to tell you how big I am, I'm a grown man, and but you're way off the mark, kid.
I am actually willing to accept that you might have some knowledge, but why be such an ass making stuff up ?

 

Lol I get this all the time,sure some folk only half read our posts and fill the rest in with what they expect to hear.