Terence Crawford vs Luis Collazo likely for march 23rd in MSG

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  1. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Luis Collazo is done. It's just probably Crawford's warm-up fight. No interesting.
     
  2. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Horrible choice.
     
  3. FloatingGhost

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    Everyone n their brother wants Crawford to fight the big guys ALL under haymons thumb. Callozo is a haymon fighter. Why is NOBODY getting this? Haymon likely mandated this fight for negotiations to happen for bid to get Spence or Thurman or Garcia or porter or pacquiao...it's a top rank fighter fighting a haymon fighter. It's a good thing in the boxing world and to me it seems quite clear that if bud wants the big dogs he pretty much HAD to take this fight. If he was fighting a sub par top rank opponent you'd all be crying about that to. To me this is a step in the right direction even if it is a lame match up.
     
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    I dedicated a thread to this.
     
  5. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Truth is the goal , be patient people.
     
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  6. Manfred

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    It all matters because it speaks to experience. Loma was more than ready to enter the professional ranks than Crawford. Loma had far exceeded the caliber of fighters that Crawford was fighting at the beginning of his career, yet the level of fighters that he has beaten is not any better than Crawford's. If you say who has Crawford fought then the same applies to Loma. He gets no pass, especially when he is ranked p4p the best by a lot of organizations.
     
  7. Odins beard

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    Of course it matters, an example from a US recent standpoint is Floyd Joy and Ward. Both elite level amateurs, who both medalled yet never jumped into the deep end from the get go like Loma. If it was so easy and expected then more fighters would have done this.

    Facts remain Crawford is in a stacked division and fighting Khans and Hattons leftovers.
     
  8. Manfred

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    Fact is that both fighters are fighting people that other fighters have fought so that statement is totally irrelevant. You said that Crawford needs to step up and I said the same applies to Loma and Spence. Then you tried to take up for Loma like he is an exception when he is not.
     
  9. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Lomachenko is an exception in the sense he's gone into the deep end from the get go, also Crawford is finally in a division with guys who can match him, 147 is one of the best if not the best divisions currently and who's he fighting?.....Collazo.

    It's a joke fight, it wouldn't be bad bit this is his 3rd fight at the weight, Horn was a weak or the weakest champion but that's a decent win. Benevidez and now Collazo is not a good look imo.

    As for Lomachenko he's called out all the top guys in his respective weight groups and has been actively avoided, where as Crawford actually got to fight the top guys and besides Postol they where all weak.

    He's now at 147 and he's fighting Collazo, there's no way this can be spun.
     
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    What I am telling you is that Loma's deep end is no better than Crawford's. You can trot out and criticize Crawford's opponents but the same can also be done with Loma's. The fact is that Crawford has stated who he wants and he has ducked no one. He fights who is put in front of him and so does Spence and Loma so when you get through talking, the same standards that you put on Crawford can be put on Loma.
     
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    I never said it was although I think Linares and Rigo trump any fighter Crawford has beaten even with Rigo moving up 2 divisions.

    My main concern or problem is that Crawford is now in a stacked division yet still choosing inferior opposition, Collazo is a horrendous opponent at this stage in his career.
     
  12. Manfred

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    The reason you never said it is because it's not true, it is only your opinion. In reality a person can find faults in each fighters resume. Rigs was not a step up but rather a step down. Linares was a step up but no more a step up than Horn was for Crawford. They were both champions at a higher weight class. You still acting like Crawford chose Collazo when in fact he didn't. If he had his choice, he has made it well known who he wants. Like I said, the same applies to Loma and Spence.
     
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    He needs a much better opponent as Collazo has seen better days. Don’t think it advances his cause much to be the number 1 at Welterweight.
     
  14. blackbolt396

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    Can this stop Bud wants Spence in the worst way , we have no idea what Al and Arum have in mind chill out.
     
  15. Serge

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    Think I'm going to move Crawford down a couple of places on my official P4P list as I feel we shouldn't be rewarding fighters for continuously dining at the C level restaurant and them never ordering a legit banger for their starter, main course or desert. The fact that he usually has a significant weight advantage over the vast majority of his opponents, whether it be at 135, 140, or even up 147, doesn't sit well with me either.

    Is it too much to ask to see him in there against an A or B level opponent? In there with a genuine puncher? Someone who is still in their prime, fit and healthy with 2 good legs, he doesn't hold a significant weight advantage over? The shot shell of D level John Molina is probably the hardest puncher he's ever shared a ring with and the only fighter above C level he's fought is Gamboa and that looked like a fight between a giant and a Cuban leprechaun.
     
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