Only 7k tickets sold for Fury v Wilder so far!

Is 250 for this fight a flop? I know some crazy numbers have been banded about, Wilder even claimed 2.5 million but some real good fights with 2 big names have only been coming in at 200k stateside. Do UK numbers count? Do they usually? I see when they like to talk Joshua numbers all they seem to include is UK PPV numbers. Those fights are broadcast around the world.

 

I wouldn't see 250K as a total flop, disappointing but not a total disaster considering it's his first PPV. Anything below 300K I think is disappointing, between 300-400K is solid, above 400K is good as that would be a record for a fighter's debut on PPV as a headliner.

For it to be a flop it will need to do less than 200K. That's basically $15 mill generated not including the gate and that's what Hearn originally priced Wilder's value at with the first offer. The whole point of this fight is that Wilder shows he brings more to the table than that and 200K doesn't do that.

I don't think the UK PPV numbers really count as they are tuning in for Fury not Wilder and in a fight eventually with Joshua the UK PPV revenue will be because Joshua is fighting not because Wilder is.

 

When comparing PPV numbers of a fight in the US usually UK numbers aren't listed in comparisons to other fights. Obviously they add to the bottom line though.

 

I predict this will do 700k in us

 

You be tripping

 

Some worse fights have done more

 

Some of Lennox Lewis' fights have 'only done 400, 450k. In the golden era of boxing PPV.

 

This isn’t completely true. Yes, we know AJ on his own is big business, but if he fights
Wilder (especially if Deontay deals with Fury in impressive fashion) it will easily smash the UK PPV record. Plus every civilised country in the world will purchase the broadcasting rights.

 

Maybe it would break the UK PPV record, but by how much? He already holds the record having done over 1.5 mill vs Wlad. How much more would Wilder do, it's hard to say, Joshua has already saturated the UK market there's no guarantee Joshua/Wilder breaks the record sufficiently enough to cover Wilder's purse requirements.

And even if you are right how much does Joshua's name bring in the US a market that isn't as saturated in the UK? You could argue Joshua name brings more in the US in terms of revenue than Wilder's does in the UK due to greater possibility of growth. Of course I'm speculating but so are you in regards to Wilder's worth to the UK market.

 

Just saw the fight advertised during an NFL game....Steelers-Broncos. Good idea dragging in casuals but sports fans.

 

Let's keep in mind Golovkin who isn't American, was absolutely slaughtered on here for 150k PPV buys.

It was constantly brought up, he was hammered, actually he still is.


So an American in America defending his WBC world title against an unbeaten former world champion doing 250k is a disaster if you go by the same measure Golovkin was judged by.

 

It wouldn't easily smash the the record at all. 1.5 mil is huge for the UK and to think it would go a lot higher than that is nonsense.

 

GGG was hyped for years on HBO...got free advertising in front of millions. Wilder...nope.
Maybe it's Wilders fault but still, thems the facts.

 

Golovkin got slaughtered for 150K, a Kazakhstani in America.

So an American in America, a WBC Champion should be judged by that standard.

Wilders promotional problems shouldn't be an excuse or taken in to account, numbers are numbers.

 

It does help if you have talented promoters, but yes Wilder has to capture the imagination of the US boxing crowd. A devastating KO will help. If he loses, particularly if he loses badly, and he will be in the dustbin of sports here.