@[url]Blackclouds[/url] Here this post is right up your alley as it conflicts with you making your own reality up because you in fact reside in fantasy land and one of the biggest revisionist on the forum ! lol
Ortiz has a dad bod ,he ain't fooling anyone with any sense. His own trainer yesterday made reference that he was 50, funny isn't it you have several sources for this now his own trainer slips up...lol Im older then Ortiz according to what his age is and the guy could pass for my uncle if I was Cuban !
To call Fury's win over Klitscho one sided is a tad bit more than revisionist. It was a ugly win, where Fury landed nothing in terms of hard shots. A slap or flail here and there was about it. The fact is that, Joshua's resume is better than Wilder's. Deal with it. Man has 40 fights and only two fights against top 10 opponents. That is laughable.
As said. I haven't a clue about the conspiracy theory you mention, but don't see the relevance with your argument as fury faced 2 of them (Klitschko and Chisora) in 3 different fights and agreed to face the other (Haye) on more than one occasion I believe. Can you see the relevance to it? If so, please let me know as you have changed your argument several times. Not sure what a comment you say someone made has to do with their resume, which was your first issue before you started changing the issue? I did look up the issues surrounding the Ustinov fight, and still can't see what you think is wrong with someone having to back out when they have an unwell family member? You say he knew this when it was agreed he would face Chisora but after researching what you said, it said Fury pulled out when the relative was taken to hospital. I think that is completely understandable. Many boxers have had to postpone or change plans due to family crisis, and it was exactly that as the relative sadly passed away. Chisora had to pull out on the Monday and from what I understand the relative was taken to hospital after that. Also his trainer would not have been available due to this. What is the issue?
Sorry just noticed you mentioned a bet. Didn't see it before? I don't mind the terms of your bet at all but wouldn't want you to be permanently banned. No need for that at all, regardless of the result
Ortiz is a better win than anything Joshua has done. Trying to act like you can give even close to amount credit to Joshua for almost dying against a 2 year lay off Klitschko compared to Fury schooling a Wlad who had beat undefeated for 10+ years is laughable. Yes, Joshua has better overall wins in quantity, but seriously who cares about the shitty names on his resume? He's had one good win, that's Klitschko. We all know the other top dogs are Ortiz, Fury, and Wilder. Fury is going to fight 2 of the topdogs, which only leaves Joshua, who is ducking him.
I disagree. The geriatric Cuban has done nothing to make me think he would have beaten Klitscho. As a matter of fact, I think Klitscho gets him out of there sooner than Wilder.
Wilder has one impressive win on his record, only one fight where people thought it could go either way. Joshua has beat a bunch of top ten guys, and Wkadimir and Povetkin. Wald and Povetkin were both very tough fights that could of went either way, and both of them would beat Ortiz and Wilder. Joshua has the best resume. Pretty stupid to deny it.
Based on what? Ortiz's only decent win is vs Jennings a guy who sure went 12 rounds vs what was a fading Wlad but who also got dropped heavily by Dimitrenko the same Dimitrenko Parker crushed in 3 rounds. Ortiz is a good fighter but he has a resume worse than Wlad, Povetkin and even Parker.
he pulled out after the press conference when Ustinov was in shape and not the least bit intimidated. fury stated what you call a conspiracy theory. it was his reason to pull out, before he remembered a sick uncle. if you cannot find his comments it simply means you made no effort.
It was you that offered the bet to me, where you said a week ban for me if Wilder won or a permanent ban for you if Fury won. I said there was no need for you to be on a permanent ban Your challenge below My response If you are having a change of mind, dont worry, forget it
You will have to post a link. As said, I cant see an issue with someone pulling out when they had a dying family member who was also once their trainer and brother to their then trainer who would not have been in his corner. I think that is very understandable to not go through with a sporting event with those family troubles. So after all of your comments and posts your judgement has come down to pulling out of one fight with the above issues going on. Was there anything else?
i just said above i won't bet money on rigged ass sporting events. any kind of ban on a forum is no skin off of my nose. whatever kind of ban bet you like. Miniq challenged me to a perma ban, i said no problem, then he went silent. coward. not like he would honor it anyhow.