Only 7k tickets sold for Fury v Wilder so far!

Hearn was on fighthype a couple of months back saying Joshua-Wilder has
the potential to do 2M on UK PPV.

These are BARB Figures for Sky Box Office
Joshua v Klitschko- 1.5M
Joshua v Parker- 1.4M
Joshua v Povetkin- 1.1M

Three of his fights have exceeded 1M. But those three, there wasn’t really any spice to it. Two of them can’t speak English fluently.

Add in the American v British Rivalry and the fact that Wilder LOOKS like someone who can knock the f out of
Joshua. I’m sure it will be a cross-sports event. And i’m sure Deontay will be as loud and cringe as he always is. It will do 1.5M MINIMUM.

Especially when non-boxing fans start to hear the words UNDISPUTED Heavyweight Titles. It will be billed as a finale to a extent.

Wilder will play a good part in that.

Joshua is a minnow in the US just like
Wilder is to a extent. He got 15K on DAZN against Povetkin and his Showtime ratings were the lowest for the majority of his fights bar

Wilder to his credit, managed to get 1.2M Viewership v Ortiz on Showtime. If he can convert 300-400K into
paying, he’s done well given the lack of appetite for Boxing in the US.

It’s been shown UK Fans will swallow up anything by Hearn. Why do you think Hearn dosent bother about strong undercards no-more and hasn’t put on a world title fight on Sky Sports for a year now.

He knows it’s open season, Drunken Nationalistic Football fans will buy anything he puts on. The best way to explain all this is, if Wilder was British he’d be a mega star. If Joshua was American he’d be a no-body

 

People would be crazy to buy a ticket now. Best to wait it out as there are still plenty floor seats avaliable. They will have to comp this out. Scalpers will need to get rid of tickets and people should wait to the end of the week.

They can't have the floor seats not filled as it looks bad on TV so will be giving these away or if you are lucky and already have a ticket you could get upgraded on the night to the floor.

 

Well Golovkin wasnt signed with by Golden Boy, Arum or Matchroom. He wasn't exactly handed anything easy.

Sure Golovkin got some love from HBO but Wilder has been given average fighter after average fighter to shine against and score KO's and he still can't grab the attention of the American casual fans.

I don't believe battering Fury changes any of that, Wilder is 33 years old, he is WBC Champion, this is his 8th defence I believe, they are struggling to sell this fight which is his biggest and over here in the Uk I honestly believe nobody gives a toss.

The vast majority of people I speak to about boxing are talking about Whyte Chisora and have said they won't be staying up to watch Fury Wilder.

I won't be, I can't sit through that undercard to watch Fury who is one of the most boring fighters on the planet.

His highlight reel for Wilder must be footage of him with hair because he hasn't done anything special or spectacular for years.

Actually the best highlights of Fury is him getting dropped by Cunningham or punching himself in the face.

So this is why this PPV might be a disaster.

 

I’m not from the US. But Boxing seems like a very niche sport. Wilder has had competition from a lot of sports for the majority of his fights.

It still makes sense to have this fight in the US. 300K US PPV Buys=1M UK PPV Buys

UK Fans will ride and die with Joshua for some reason. UK Fans have shown they will buy PPV at 5am in the morning see Hatton v Mayweather and Mayweather v Pacquiao and Mcgregor

That crucial bit of US Revenue along with the gates and the media attention AJ would recieve if he wins,is a dream for Matchroom and Hearn.

 

This fight is next weekend and there is hardly a buzz, even in the boxing community. No excitement like the Canelo and GGG fight.

If this fight doesn't generate 500k PPV buy it will be a flop. Each fighter is guaranteed $10 million. They can make more with gate and PPV sales if numbers reaches target sales numbers. The PPV is $65 and the avearge for gate is $500. Showtime and BT sports gets half the PPV revenue so 500k would be 32 million minus network cut is 16 million. The seating for event is 21k. At 500 dollars average for a ticket thats roughly 10 million. Minus the arena fee, promoter, etc that should leave 5 million. So a sell out crowd and 500k in PPV would come to about 21 million. Minus the guaranteed 20 million to the two star and the other boxers on the card it will be a break even.

I'm Only accounting for US PPV sales.

 

Doesn't surprise me. Fury is painful to watch in the ring. I'd rather hear him hamming it up singing than watch him "box."

 

I agree Wilder would be big in the UK, that’s obviously correct. His big fan base would push him in to bigger fights though pretty quick.
You could say it is easier for Joshua with the fan base, but he has to fight big fights every year to maintain that fan base, if he was not up to the task he would of been found out pretty quickly.

Joshua would be much bigger taking the same fights as he has in the US though. Wilder’s main problem is he has been fighting the poorest opponents he can get away with for most of his championship reign.

 

Never knew stub hub had so many tickets left to sell as well.

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I agree with everything else you said, but this is BS.
The problem with Wilder is his opposition. He fought nobody!
Joshua fought guys with name value.

Whyte was popular just like Wilder is, but he broke through with the Parker fight. It made him a legitimate star.
To Whyte, Browne was what Ortiz was to Wilder. A name opponent and a big win which game both men a lot of attention. People finally took them seriously.

Adrien Broner climbed the popularity ranks fast with his trash talk and KO's. But he really made it with his victory over DeMarco. Broner finally legitimized himself in the eyes of many.

 

Yeah well Mr Blobby and Gangam style got to number one in the UK, whilst Springsteen hasn't had one. You can't trust stats like those equating it to quality.

 

At this point it's rather obvious they overpriced tickets for this fight. So, the two main problems are:
1) not enough popularity of the fighters;
2) the tickets are too expensive.

 

BBC radio/podcast guys heard from box office staff 13k sold with 4k left on sale at the start of the week.


How many of those 13k are in the hands of touts i have no idea.

 

Yep this is so true. Wilder could of been more popular had he been matched better. People would of taken him more seriously had he stepped up his opposition sooner and become a fan of his.

I know this because I was hyping Wilder after he beat Liakhovich, saw a big, fast naturally talented heavy who was stepping up a level and I thought he could be the real deal, then he fought Firtha, had that dive vs Scott and then Gavern, Gavern people Gavern! I basically gave up on him then.

Had he fought someone decent after Liakhovich and then stepped up again then i would of been a fan. I'm a Parker fan, why did I become a Parker fan, he fought Takam at a time when everyone said it was too soon, he showed desire and ambition. Wilder never showed that for most of his career and it's cost him in terms of popularity.

 

Giving them away now.

 

The guy who made this video is hide-behind-the-sofa cringe-worthy. It's like listening to a trainspotter analysing the cost of Brexit while jotting down the number of the 14.45 from Wolverhampton on Paddington Station, platform 12....