Ben Davison deluded

Ben Davison trained BJS only for the Artur Akovov fight, a fight that everyone thought he was terrible in. He also claims he wasnt training properly until the Willie Munroe Fight (the very next fight).

That is hardly a ringing endorsement now is it?

 

You do raise some good points tbf but sometimes fighters cant see the wood for the trees.
I've come across fighters who thought they had lost every round, only to find out on the cards they won.

 

This is either incredibly dumb or incredibly ignorant.

 

People just want to criticize everyone lol

 

No, his suspension was lifted and he was cleared to fight Klitschko in October 2016.
But he was already off the rails.

 

Tyson Fury's never lost a fight, so when he loses one or even two (to Wilder, Joshua, whoever), are you going to acknowledge those losses as "off nights" ?

 

I'll take them within the context of his whole career. I think he also probably has lost a fight to be fair. Much as I don't think Lewis Holyfield was a draw or that Casamayor really did sneak a close one against Santa Cruz and thus amend my judgement, I don't think Fury beat McDermott regardless of what the referee said.

 

Take a f.u.c.k.i.n.g day off mate! Your anti Fury/pro matchroom agenda is now naked for all to see. Every post from your new account is either pro matchroom or anti Fury. You can't see past Eddie's a.r.s.e hole. Sad, really.

First you played down Fury's performance in Germany. "Boring", "Definitely not a schooling", "Only won by four rounds", bla bla bla. Then making a big point about his alleged lack of power, even comparing him to Malinaggi ffs! Ridiculous.

A.) Fury being boring is just your opinion. 50% of the poll on the topic disagree. The % in favour contain a lot of people like you, who can't bare to give Fury deserved praise. Guys who say Mayweather is great to watch and Fury is crap.

B.) You say Mayweather schooled Canelo but Fury didn't school Wlad. Scorecards for Mayweather/Canelo were a lot closer. Genuinely closer.

C.) The judges in Germany had Fury by four rounds. It was wider. Many scored only two or three rounds for Wlad. American TV had it wide.

D.) Paulie Malinaggi had 7 stoppages in his career. Mentioning his power in the same category as Fury is ridiculous. I understand the reference was in relation to face marking, but the comparison was bizarre. Fury has stopped three of his last five opponents, two of which were top 10 guys. Fury's feather fists are a myth. You know that, yet still bothered to push your agenda, for no apparent reason other than hate.

D.) "My reading of it is that Fury knew Klitschko would be a different animal in a second fight" - This hilarious quote, was when I realised you're an unconditional hater, creating a profile on here to push an agenda. Why are you trying to disguise it?

Fury goes to Germany at 27, SCHOOLS the great Wladimir Klitschko after telling the world he'd do it, and you think he was scared of a rematch? Pathetic. Fury was getting better, looking unbeatable, Wladimir older. It's a shocking argument, that only haters regurgitate.

Why not just come out and say "I f.u.c.k.i.n.g. hate Tyson Fury and can't give him praise for anything!" Or "I'm a big matchroom fan, love what Eddie Hearn is doing." No shame in that, at least it's honesty. I'm obviously a big Fury fan. Proud of it. Don't pretend to be anything else. But I can give other boxers and promoters credit and praise where it's due because I'm not a hater. I'm a boxing fan.

 

Oh look, you had McDermott beating Fury, there's a surprise!

FWIW I thought Fury lost the first McDermott fight by a round or two. It's just funny how in every single Tyson Fury topic, you go against him in every possible way.

 

He's Opinion of a Casual reborn.

 

It's a fact.

Of course there is people who are very depressed and see no point to life. When you know the world is run by war mongering, pedophile satanists who are pushing us into a society that makes George Orwell blush, then the only sane thing to be is depressed.

But the vast majority of people who are claiming they are mentally ill are not. Fact. They are attention seeking because it's the latest fad. I don't see how anyone can dispute this. You must know it deep down.

And do you disagree that there is no stigma around mental health? There certainly isn't anymore.

 

I don't know about that mate. What is your actual view then, that mental health illness is rare?

 

I'm sorry but I think this is just desperate, rambling madness. I've said I thought Fury clearly won in Germany, just that I didn't think it was some majestic schooling. And it prompts this? To try and break your points down in brief:

A. It is my opinion. Correct. I like knockdowns, knockouts, back and forth fights and lots of action. That's why I got into boxing. Therefore I don't really find Fury exciting. Sorry.

B. I don't factor bad cards into my judgement. If I think fighter A won every round and the judges give some horrific 115-114 card to fighter B I don't suddenly think fighter A didn't win every round.

C. Fair enough. I found it hard to score lots of rounds because so little happened. Some independent judges (including funnily enough, the Independent) called it a draw.

D. You're making yourself look a bit daft here. You keep suggesting evidence of Fury's power is how bad he marks up his opponents faces. I've said time and again that marking up someone's face has more to do with speed, accuracy and timing (note - I'm actually giving Fury credit here for being quick, accurate and able to time his punches really well) more than power.

D. (Again. For some reason your ranting made you lose track of the alphabet). Lets sum up what I've said about Tyson which makes me 'an unconditional hater.' I didn't find his performance in Germany exciting, but that's just based on the styles I like. He went to Germany with the tactics and ability to beat an all time great and he really, genuinely, clearly deserved to win. He's not feather fisted; he's got a comparable stoppage record to the likes of Povetkin and Whyte. I don't think he'll win this weekend but I think that's more to do with how long he's been out, and I think he'll be a lot more competitive than some have suggested.

Honestly. People like you. I don't know what you want!

 

A fair assessment is all, of which you're incapable of giving without a patronising or negative spin of said fighter. You pretend to give credit when really you're playing down Fury's undeniably extraordinary attributes. "An effective style" and crap like that. What about the Hammer performance and Chisora 2? That's elite defensive and offensive boxing in any era. You ignore that and reference his more conservative performance against Klitschko.

You never addressed your "reading" of Fury being afraid of the rematch. An embarrassing comment that wasn't a reading at all. It was a premeditated conclusion.

Your agenda is there for all to see chief. Dress it up whatever way you want.

 

'What about the Hammer performance?'

He beat Christian Hammer for god's sake. If we're talking about how utterly brilliant Tyson Fury is what does beating Christian Hammer have to do with anything? I mean, read your own words. 'Undeniably extraordinary attributes.' 'Elite defensive and offensive boxing in any era.' 'Looking unbeatable.' You don't sound like a Fury fan; you sound like a Fury propagandist.

You also seem to miss so much that is said. Example - your rant about the Malignaggi comparison. You're so desperate to say Tyson isn't feather fisted that you make a really weak argument; namely look at the fact he cut his opponents face. The point is anyone can do that, even Malignaggi. Stopping opponents demonstrates this. The sad fact is you're so desperate to jump to Tyson's defence you miss the point being made; I'm saying he's quicker and more accurate than other heavyweights. Jeez - why so defensive!?