Just ordered these books..Any others recommended?

Short book..wish it was longer. Nice read. I like his couple pages on Dempsey.

 

Would be nice if Hagler ..BHop and Hearns wrote autobiography's. Would like to see someone tackle a Monzon and Matt Franklin bio too

 

A Miracle Matt book would be very welcome

 

I’d be all over a Saad book and a Hagler autobio.

 

From what I’ve heard he uses nothing in the way of primary sources, maybe one or two per fight and then out-of-town reports so for me personally I wouldn’t bother.

 

Next-day sources listed for Charles' bouts in 1950s (if bout is not listed, I didn't see any next-day newspaper listed in chapter notes):

1950-08-15 Freddie Beshore (Buffalo, NY)
AP in Fredericksburg (VA) Freelance Star
Miami News-Palm Beach Post

1950-09-27 Joe Louis (Bronx, NY)
James P. Dawson in New York (NY) Times

1951-01-12 Lee Oma (New York, NY)
Carl Hughes in Pitsburgh (PA) Press
AP in Pittsburgh (PA) Post-Gazette

1951-03-07 Jersey Joe Walcott (Detroit, MI)
UP in Tuscaloosa (AL) News
AP in Daytona Beach (FL) Morning Journal
AP in Leader Post
Murray Rose in Miami (FL) Daily News

1951-05-30 Joey Maxim (Chicago, IL)
Ray Grody and Lloyd Larson in Milwaukee (WI) Sentinel

1951-07-18 Jersey Joe Walcott (Pittsburgh, PA)
Carl Hughes and Bob Drum in Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
AP and Murray Rose in Milwaukee (WI) Journal

1952-06-05 Jersey Joe Walcott (Philadelphia, PA)
Jimmy Cannon in New York (NY) Post
Chester Smith in Pittsburg (PA) Post-Gazette
Red Smith and Whitney Martin in Ottawa (Canada) Citizen
Murray Rose in Windsor (Canada) Daily Star
Oscar Fraley in Spokane (WA) Daily Chronicle

1952-08-08 Rex Layne (Ogden, UT)
Clifton E. Wilson in New London (CT) Day

1952-10-08 Bernie Reynolds (Cincinnati, OH)
Miami (FL) Daily News

1952-10-24 Cesar Brion (New York, NY)
AP in Schenectady (NY) Gazette
Murray Rose in Fredericksburg (VA) Freelance-Star

1952-12-15 Frank Buford (Boston, MA)
AP in Prescott (AZ) Evening Courier

1953-04-01 Rex Layne (San Francisco, CA)
UP in Lodi (CA) News Sentinel

1953-08-11 Nino Valdes (Miami Beach, FL)
Art Grace in Miami Daily News

1953-09-08 Harold Johnson (Philadelphia, PA)
Ralph Bernstein in Ellensburg (WA) Daily Record
Jimmy Cannon in New York (NY) Post
AP in Pittsburgh (PA) Post-Gazette

1953-12-16 Coley Wallace (San Francisco, CA)
Warsaw (IN) Times-Union
AP in Pittsburgh (PA) Post-Gazette

1954-06-17 Rocky Marciano (Bronx, NY)
Arthur Daley and Joseph M. Sheehan in New York Times
Chicago (IL) Daily Tribune

1954-09-17 Rocky Marciano (Bronx, NY)
Murray Rose in New London (CY) Evening Day

1955-02-18 Charley Norkus (New York, NY)
Jack Hand in New London (CY) Evening Day

1955-04-27 John Holman (Miami Beach, FL)
Art Grace in Miami News-Palm Beach Post

1955-06-08 John Holman (Cincinnati, OH)
AP in Hopkinsville (KY) Kentucky New Era

1955-07-13 Paul Andrews (Chicago, IL)
AP in Ellensburg (WA) Daily Record

1955-08-31 Tommy Jackson (Cleveland, OH)
Gettysburg (PA) Times

1955-11-14 Toxie Hall (Providence, RI)
AP in Toledo (OH) Blade

1956-08-31 Harry Matthews (Seattle, WA)
Salt Lake City (UT) Deseret News and Telegram

1956-10-02 Dick Richardson (London)
AP in Milwaukee (WI) Journal

1958-10-27 Donnie Fleeman (Dallas, TX)
Whitey Sawyer in Ocala (FL) Star Banner

 

The Millennium Max Kellerman method of learning and study; don't actually read a ****ing book yourself and review it, go by others opinions and close the mind to ideas. Good thing in the last century folks didn't listen to the first reviews of "Ulysses".

 

Only heard good things about the Greb book, any of the Adam Pollack books ,Clay Moyle's Sam Langford,anything by George Kimball,Hugh McIllvanney,W C Heinz,A J Leibling , I enjoyed Jerry Izenberg's Once Were Giants,Springs Toledo's trilogy,Harry Ottey's book on Charley Burley,the new Ali book by Jonathan Eig. Friday Night's Heroes is very good ,told by Pep! The Black Lights,The Road To Nowhere by Tris Dixon ,about former fighters,interesting but a bit sad in parts.

 

The Greb book is excellent. I can’t put it down. Highly recommended.

I enjoyed the Burley one written by Allen Rosenfeld published about 15 years ago. I’ll pencil in the other one and I’ve been meaning to get that Pep one.

Will purchase the Langford one too. I think that will be my next read once I’ve finished with these three I just got.

 

I did not enjoy Otty’s book on Burley overall. It was okay.

 

So his research is limited to the newspaper archive website.

Avoid, avoid, avoid in other words.

 

Another recommendation for Moyle's Langford book and Pollack's Jack Johnson books. Extremely well researched and pretty fair as well. They acknowledge when Johnson/Langford were legitimately beaten, for instance, and print multiple ringside opinions of the same fights. The same goes for Live Fast, Die Young. I've read many a boxing biography where that's not the case and the hero of the story only lost when it was a fix or a robbery, or a fluke.

If you don't already have it, Heller's In This Corner is a must. Also Ghosts of Manila by Mark Kram. I enjoyed Teddy Brenner's Only The Ring Was Square too, a lot of good stories from a guy who was matchmaker at MSG for many years.

 

Langford book is good. I have Rosenfelds book on Burley but haven't read it. Massive book.

 

Not quite so. Anyway, 95% of boxing history books out there are not better or are worse than this bio in how much efforts was put into research.

 

Not especially well written but the content was good,imo.