For those who scored for Wilder or who scored it a draw...

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    For those who scored for Wilder or who scored it a draw...
    Please can you post your round by round scores.

    I thought Fury was a clear winner 116 - 110.

    I'm not looking to discredit your cards just interested to see what the minority saw
     
  2. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no way to score the fight for Wilder, the max you can give him is 3 rounds, there is no way in which a person who watched more than 10 boxing fights would score it for Wilder
     
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  3. The Long Count

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    I lost lot of respect for dan Rafael who I always respected even when I disagreed with him. Espn has so been in the tank for wilder now for couple years and now Rafael had him winning. Joke of a card dan. Don’t do what the bosses tell you too
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    As you can see, I clearly felt Fury won. I'm sure my question will be discredited because I favoured Fury to win before the fight.
    I am interested to know what others claim to have seen that is so vastly different to what I saw
     
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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Really?
    Would be interested to see his round by round scorecard
     
  6. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    I don't really think there is any legitimate way to score the fight for Wilder. I think some emotionally believe that Wilder won because he had a huge knockdown in the last round and for a few seconds it looked like Fury was out cold. Plus Wilder had another knockdown (although it was more of a flash/push knockdown). At best you can maybe score it a draw but that is still a monstrous stretch for Wilder.
     
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  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder lost both Floyd Mayweather and Lennox Lewis had Fury up big. Paul Malinaggi couldn’t even talk straight he was so mad. And Al Bernstein one of the fairest people in the sport felt Fury was robbed. He was robbed plain and simple. Wilder is protected he always has been and this is just more proof of it. I scored it 9-3 for Fury and a case can be made the first knockdown could of been a 10-9 round
     
  8. Drew101

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    Rounds 4, 5, 9 and 12 to Wilder on my card. But there wasn't a whole lot in the first two rounds and I though the sixth was close as well. A draw is within reach...I personally just have an issue with the card that awarded 7 rounds to Wilder.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed, I scored it the same and Wilder really is the most protected boxer in the sport right now. Years of facing nobodies, given a shot at a weak title holder, refused to unify with Wlad, fought sub par opposition in title defences, opponents diving, only fought one mandatory in 3 years, his number 1 challenger in Whyte denied mandatory status, when he did finally step up it was a cherry pick vs an old man, referee's giving him extra time to recover when hurt and now corrupt judges.

    Wilder is this era's Sven Ottke.
     
  10. Staminakills

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    I saw a clear and actually wide win for DW. The problem it being wide is because I judged like a clean judge where every round is given (YES, GIVEN) to one undeserving fighter. Not the fighters fault but it was a very close and competitive fight in the real world but with having to give every round to a fighter Wilder evaded up a clear abs WIDE winner for me.

    It ended with 7/5 rounds to Wilder less the 2 kd points, that's how it became so wide in a highly competitive and closely fought fight..

    There wasn't truly a single round fury "dominated" never mind many rounds. There were truly 7,maybe 8 rounds that were just too close to just Give to either fighter.

    Wilder was the only one who clearly won some of the rounds. He posted my rounds in a thread so it's out there.

    That score is based off how judges fit the boat part refuse even rounds which is the worst part in all of boxing.

    Is a round is that close then WTF, why does one fighter get penalized while his opponent gets extra credit. That ruins more big fights than anything, and that's the sole reason for weird scorecards and the reason so many claim every fight is a robbery.

    Even rounds are truly the vast majority of rounds with the elite fighters, most keep rounds so close that either fighter getting gifted a round is the worst thing that could happen that does continue to happen in every fight with true top teir fighters going against top teir opponents.

    Here's my rounds,
    Wilder - fury
    R1 10-9 Clear missed first 20 secs
    R2 10-10 if have to pick is dw missed first 30 secs
    R3 9-10 very tiny edge missed first 15 secs
    R4 10-10, if have to pick is dw
    R5 missed entire round
    R6 10-9 close but clear
    R7 9-10 best fury round by far
    R8 10-9 clear
    R9 10-8 clear
    R10 9-10 close
    R11 9-10 close
    R12 10-8
    Clearly 7 of the 12 rounds were literally too cloee for me to understand how non were scored even.

    Have to add, the posters on here had me expecting a totally different fight than what my eyes saw.
     
  11. The Long Count

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    Don’t forget the Povetkin fiasco of trace amounts of meldonium and Wilder and his team being allowed to fly home from England immediately before the wbc or anyone could even rule on the fight - forcing the cancellation themselves. Or the fact that as a mandatory against Stiverne somehow Wilder received 75 percent of the purse. What Stiverne as champion gained from that horrible negotiation we’ll never know
     
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  12. ILikeBoxingForRealz

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    115-111 on my card for Fury. The 2 knockdowns and round 1 were what I gave Deontay. LOL my god Tyson was floored in round 12. I couldn't believe Gypsy got up.
     
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very harsh

    Sven ottke fought several top SMWs and fighter's who went on to do well
     
  14. FrankinDallas

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    I agree with this post. I had Wilder winning 3 of the first 8 rounds, then 9th and 12th were 10-8, giving the rounds to Fury 7-5 but the math works out to 113-113. I can see giving Wilder only 2 early rounds; then it's 114-112 Fury.

    The only thing that was a robbery was Rochin's 115-111 Wilder scorecard.
     
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  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I really can't see what you saw but fair enough
     
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