If Wilder doesn't fight Fury/Joshua in the UK next.....

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  1. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Can we finally all accept that this guy's career is 99% fabrication?


    He got the opponent he wanted.....
    At the time which most benefitted Wilder.....
    And he got schooled.


    The first World level fighter he has ever fought, who hadn't been active for over 2 years, and he was given a lesson similar to the one that Floyd gave Canelo.


    After that performance last night, it's pretty clear he's a huge underdog to both Fury and Joshua.


    In 6 months time against Fury in the UK, I don't see Wilder winning a round.
     
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    Fury-Wilder II
    Aj-Dylan White II
    Levels to this
     
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    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Looking forward to seeing the Criticism Hearn will get for putting Joshua in with a fighter who has a better win than Wilder.
     
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    Protected.
     
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    Ortiz KO Whyte
    Whyte was coming in hot for Wilder after warthog Browne. Changed his tune real quick after Wbc demanded Ortiz-Whyte. Nothing like getting your ass beat by a grandpa lol. Whyte knew this & backed down imo
     
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    Its kind of silly to call a world class fighter's career a fabrication if he doesn't take the fight you want at exactly the time you want. What if he rematched Ortiz or beat Miller or Pulev those would all be good wins.

    He's an Olympic medalist with a world title he's defended multiple times. He's already legit, its just a question of whether he's the best, which it seems like he isn't, based on the fight last night.
     
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    That's the thing with credibility, it's like virginity, you can only lose it once.

    It's going to be an uncomfortable ride being a die-hard Hearn/Joshua supporter going forward. They only just got away with £50 million gate. Whyte in April was a nail in the coffin and the inevitable ducking of Fury will be the start of the end of the worship. Last night changed the dynamics of the HW division massively. Anyone whose interested go and have a look at Eddie and Barry's twitter and see the comments. Frank is right, it ain't up to Wilder and Fury to prove themselves to Matchroom, it's the opposite.

    Wait until Fury publically starts calling out Joshua, which he will soon once he's decompressed.
     
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    Joshua has wanted Fury for a while.....

    He may finally get his wish.

    Hopefully it's more competitive than their sparring.
     
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    If they line up a Fury fight or even a Wilder one soon I will happily eat my words on here. Best thing for the sport.
     
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    Best thing for the sport is a Fury/Wilder rematch in the UK.

    Wilder lost last night, and we shouldn't forget that.


    My prediction of Fury v Usyk for all the belts in 2020 is getting closer.
     
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    Yep, fair point agreed. Obviously I assume you think Joshua and Wilder are going to fall by the wayside in the interim. I pick Joshua to beat Wilder.
     
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    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    He’s a “huge underdog” to the guy he dropped twice and drew with last night? Who do you bet with because If like to get some of that action.
     
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    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    No he didn’t...you don’t get to make up the results you want and expect the rest of the world to acknowledge your delusions. It was a draw, and Fury was dropped twice, he got his pace, his fight, and still couldn’t win. It doesn’t matter where they fight if the same thing happens you’d get the same result.
     
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    Denial isn't just a river in Egypt...

    Your boi got a prefill scorecard bonus so taking the corruption out of the equation Fury is now the WBC champ..
     
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    But the thing is, you do get to 'make up' the results.

    The 115-111 card was indeed 'made up'.



    I'm not sure how Fury 'Got his pace, his fight' etc.


    It was a cherry pick which went wrong.
    Lets see how quickly Wilder agrees to a rematch in Fury's backyard.
     
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