For all the "Oh Wlad was shot", "Fury isn't that skillfull Wlad just didn't throw" etc etc etc

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  1. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He was unable to cinvincingly beat old and shot wlad, there is no way he would beat 34yo wlad. No way
     
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  2. gdm

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    And you struggle on daily basis , coz your iq is 74.
     
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  3. j0hn0

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    dang. was hoping i wouldnt actually have to back that up with names. stop making me have to have substance.

    so pulev, prime byrd, prime povetkin, calvin brock, prime sam peter, tony thompson, would all have a good shot against any of todays big three hw's. not saying favorite, but they wouldnt be handled like wlad handled them. most of them ended up ruined by the beating they took from wlad.
     
  4. Antsu

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    Main reason is that he lost and his fans cant accept defeat
     
  5. j0hn0

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    ibragimov was a giant pain in the ass too. think hed be too skilled for wilder at least. wilder wouldnt land a punch the entire fight.
     
  6. j0hn0

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    haters seem to have more unbreakable hangups than fans do.
     
  7. Delupino

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    Fury beat Wlad in a way that would suggest he would beat Wlad at any point in his career. He made him reluctant to throw, because Wlad only throws when he is relatively sure that he will hit his target. Fury's head movement threw him off that mindset. Wlad did not know how to box Fury and that showed round after round that night in Dusseldorf. It had nothing to do with Wlad being shot or overstretched, it was simply down to Fury's movement, the like of which Wlad had never seen before. When he faced a far more orthodox opponent in Joshua he was able to have much more success and he looked great against Joshua, because Joshua had none of Fury's trickery. It was his age and failure to commit that cost him the fight against Joshua.
     
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  8. j0hn0

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    i think wlad would've handled it better when he was younger. could counter fury's movement with his own movement. wlad had great ring generalship, esp once manny started with him. I completely agree that fury's style would give wlad trouble at any stage. But i think wlad beats him if hes younger.
     
  9. Delupino

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    I think Fury outboxes a younger Wlad too. Young Wlad was basically a brawler and Fury would have kept him on the end of the jab all night long.
     
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  10. j0hn0

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    aww man i couldnt disagree more. wlad was def a head hunter and swung for fences a lot but he was still skilled as eff. wouldnt have lasted as long on top if he wasnt.

    again tho, if the point is that fury is skilled and tricky, i really do agree. just think ur underestimating wlad a bit.
     
  11. Delupino

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    Wlad got exposed and beaten multiple times. He was given multiple chances because of his brother, who was a truly exceptional fighter. The losses Wlad took would have been the end for many a less connected boxer.
     
  12. j0hn0

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    ah. you hate wlad. that splains it. i will exit stage left. but i want u to know...i still care for you. now maybe more than ever. our relationship is just complicated.
     
  13. Antsu

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    I think Wlad is one of the best utilizing height advantage ever. However i dont think his style would ever be suited to beat Fury. Furys tricks, height and movement is all wrong for him.
    I dont see his age making much of a difference in h2h outcome
     
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  14. gdm

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    wlad had beautiful and very exciting style to watch , I asked Ukrainian girl out and took her to Atlantic city to wlad vs mercer fight that was when Wlad was 24-25 . We sat rignside and those left hooks and straight rights were powerful ,sharp and accurate , that was a different Wlad , that wlad would have got sloppy featherfisted Fury out in 6 -7 rounds , wlad that Fury fought was way past his best , he was shot against Jennings and even older and slower against Fury and Fury still looked sloppy and did not impressed me one bit .
     
  15. j0hn0

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    awesome, u were at that mercer fight? wlad laid a beating down on him. what a good one to say u went to.

    im gonna just assume you closed the deal with the hot ukrainian girl too