How did you score Fury vs. Wilder?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Dec 1, 2018.


Who deserved to win Fury vs Wilder?

Poll closed Aug 26, 2021.
  1. Wilder

    5.1%
  2. Fury

    82.9%
  3. a draw is fair

    12.0%
  1. Delupino

    Delupino Member Full Member

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    I had it 116 - 110 Fury. Other than the knockdown rounds, there's no real way to score any of the rounds for Wilder. He didn't do anything other than headhunt with his right hand, which is what he has done in every single fight of his professional career other than the first Stiverne encounter. He landed the occasional jab or right hand, but Fury bossed each and every round of the fight, with ring generalship, distance control, evasion and the jab. Even 9 and 12 were Fury rounds if you don't count the knockdowns.

    Wilder looked lost and desperate. It was only Fury's misplaced showmanship and concomitant lack of focus that allowed Wilder to land the punches he did to cause the knockdowns. Without the knockdowns there'd be a serious argument for a 12-0 whitewash.
     
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  2. Delupino

    Delupino Member Full Member

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    The poll results are a satisfying reflection of the truth. 143 to 10 at this point in favor of Fury. Fury has largely been unpopular on this forum, seen as a spoiler and a bore, who was lucky to face off against an unnaturally timid and reluctant to engage Wlad who for some reason forgot how to punch. The reality was that he made Wlad reluctant and timid. He gave no openings to Wlad to work his jab, let alone his right hand. He did exactly the same to Wilder, except Wilder was not so fearful as Wlad and threw endlessly throughout the fight, many more punches, and so had numbers on his side. At some point it was inevitable he would connect. He did and it had an effect and here's why:

    Fury has a very high center of gravity. He is easy to knock over. Think of him as a sort of parking meter. If the meter was any lower on its pole it would be harder to knock over. Did Fury look befuddled after Pajkic knocked him down? No.

    Did Fury look befuddled after Cunningham knocked him down? No.

    Did Fury look befuddled after Wilder knocked him down in the 9th? No.

    Did Fury look befuddled after Wilder knocked him down in the 12? No.

    Fury's center of gravity makes him easy to knock down. However, he has never been even remotely troubled by any of the knockdowns he has received. The 12th round kd to Wilder looked brutal but if you watch the footage Fury's eyes are open the moment Jack Reiss bends over him and probably before that. The camera only fixes Fury's face when Reiss is over him. His eyes are clearly open. He is simply taking a moment to recover. It looks inspirational when he gets up, but reason and observation tells you he wasn't really that hurt by Wilder's punches, just knocked to the ground as anyone would be by that combination from Fury's starting position, which was low and gymnastic.

    I don't mean to take anything away from Fury getting up after that knockdown, because it's clear to me that it was the sporting moment of the year, but visual moments are almost invariably half truths. Fury was simply not that effected by Wilder's punches and while he went to the floor as a result of his high center of gravy, he was not ever in any real danger.

    You might say well, why did Fury go to ground at all given it cost him the fight? Again, I emphasize the point of his high center of gravity, which makes him rather easy to knock over, but not to knock out.

    Now, compare this to David Price. Similar height, similar-ish build. Price goes down easily due to a similar center of gravity that makes him easy to knock over. However, Price has no chin. So when he goes down, he stays down. Fury gets up as if nothing happened. It looks amazing and people credit his willpower. However, it's down to the fact that Fury's chin is granite, he just has limited control over the perpendicularity of his body.
     
  3. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I had it 115-111 Fury. Ring generalship carried the day over what was, by and large, ineffective aggression.
     
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  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The most important thing we need to know is how Gareth A Davies scored it

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  6. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im still angry
     
  7. Delupino

    Delupino Member Full Member

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    Gareth Davies, such a knob, but I watched that video intently and his gaze did not one time drift to her cleavage. Well done, my man, you shall silence those feminists yet.
     
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  8. RockyMarciano

    RockyMarciano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    3 rounds is being generous. Also the first knockdown could easily still have been a 10-9 (I still called it 10-8) round for Wilder as Fury dominated every other second of the round both before and after the one punch that knocked him down.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Poll on a rival site has it

    196 for Fury (89.09%)
    24 for Donkey (10.91%)

    And another one has it

    Who do you think won the fight?

    Tyson Fury 392 vote(s) 88.3%
    Deontay Wilder 25 vote(s) 5.6%
    Draw 27 vote(s) 6.1%
     
  10. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He scored it 2 big ones (dem puppies)
     
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  11. dirty boy

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    Having watched again, I can push a case (just) for Wilder being given rounds 1 and 2, then obviously 9 and 12 by 2.

    Throw in another two 'rouge' scoring rounds (not sure which ones though) and you have 113-113.

    So by whichever way you look at it, you can't score the fight a win to Wilder like that judge did, but I can reluctantly see a draw in there. On the night I had it 115-111 to Fury.

    However, I can also see Wilder fans would have felt hard done by had their man knocked Fury down twice and lost the titles.

    I think it's quite obvious the last round cost Fury the fight.

    Any boxing fan out there has to see how poor Wilder is, but the to the casual fan who doesn't truly know what's going on I can see how he'll appeal. I'm trying to be pragmatic!

    Another 5 months of Fury on the right path and I can't see him losing a rematch.
     
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  12. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s the same garbage every time now in boxing - any remotely close round goes to the House fighter. Only this time it’s near impossible to give the fighter more than 4 rounds which he would need to make it a draw.
    I had it 9-3 Fury.
     
  13. KenBoon

    KenBoon The Marquess of Queensbury's proof reader Full Member

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    Pretty much everyone scored it the same, bizarre scoring from a so called professional judge to give it 115 - 111 Wilder lol
     
  14. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At a maximum Wilder took 4 rounds and that’s being generous
     
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  15. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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