In the history of boxing, did any challenger get dropped 2X and win a belt?

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  1. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Wasn't Bradley down a couple of times against Provo or was it just once?
     
  2. Robney

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    He was down twice, but the one he couldn't get up from (he fell down again) wasn't counted as a knockdown even.
    He was also defending, not the challenger.
     
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    Ah, true enough. That was an excellent fight all the same
     
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    Benn was the champion, not the challenger.

    I think this thread is talking about WINNING A JUDGES' DECISION under those circumstances, not KOs and DQs.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong people

    But Bobby Chacon was challenging Bazooka Limon in 1982 (WBC 130 pound title) was floored twice on his way to receiveing the decision and the title.
    In a 15 rounder.

    The only difference being Limon himself was KD'd once, in the final round.

    This was the first example I looked up. I'm convinced there must be others.
     
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    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When someone finds another I’m sure the parameters of the question will change...

    Has a challenger ever won a decision after suffering two knockdowns without knocking the Champion down, in a WBC title fight, in LA, when at least one judge was paid off, when 6’9”?

    No? Not in the over 100 year history of boxing? Well that says it all...clearly a draw was fair.
     
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    Ok, my mistake.

    It would seem that a direct comparison is proving difficult to find, however in the whole history of the sport I’m sure it must have happened more than once in the past.

    It’s a good question.

    Closest I can think of at the moment is Frampton vs Gonzales.

    Frampton went down at least twice in that fight but got the decision, only difference is that Frampton was defending not challenging.

    I can’t remember any details offhand, but it might be worth looking at Boza Edwards’ record.
     
  8. Glass City Cobra

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    1) that was 1 knockdown, not 2.

    2) the official rules is that a knockdown gives the guy 10-8, end of discussion. When ali was dropped by Frazier, when holyfield was droppws by bowe, when holmes went down against shavers, they did NOT win those rounds no matter how much heart they showed or how hard they fought back. Doesn't matter if u dont like it.
     
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    Where can we see those rules ?
     
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  10. It's Ovah

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    Interesting that no one's been able to provide an example yet.

    However, that doesn't mean it cannot ever happen. It happened last Saturday and I'd like to see anyone arguing that Fury didn't deserve the win on a straight breakdown of the action in the ring.

    No one thought a 45 year old could come back and become HW champion of the world till Foreman did it.
     
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    Sid Smith v Joe Young Wilson was down four times and won on points. Was over twenty rounds, non title affair.
     
  12. The Long Count

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    1. Yeah I acknowledged it was 1 knockdown

    2. Who said I don’t like it? And where does it say official rules guy has to get 10-8 doesn’t always happen like that. Michael Moorer received an even round against Holyfield. It happens.

    You sound bitter in many of your replies. Do you feel Wilder should have won? Cause the majority, myself included felt he clearly lost. And it doesn’t matter if it hasn’t happened before. Boxing is scored round by round- Fury won enough rounds to deserve the decision, despite the knockdowns.
     
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    Freddie Roach was quoted today as saying that Fury only deserved to lose the kd rounds 10-9 because he clearly won remainder of those rounds. Guess 10-8 isn’t automatic like some believe. Check the scene for the quote
     
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    Actually, it DIDN'T happen last Saturday.

    The fight was ruled a draw.

    The question is when did a challenger get dropped twice and win the title via decision.

    When did it ever ACTUALLY HAPPEN?

    I can't find a single example, and there have been basically four or five alphabet belts for nearly 30 years.
     
  15. Doco

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    I know no-one has come up with an example but I'm wont be surprised if someone comes in with one eventually - however I think it will more than likely be an older fight with a 15 round limit opposed to a 12 round limit - the older longer fights would allow for 2 knockdowns without having as much of an impact vs the 12 rounds fights