Tyson Fury Rocky Redemption Propaganda Destroyed All Objectivity Surrounding This Fight

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  1. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Look love i monitor your threads because you are such a joke and i like a laugh. I entertain them because they are entertaining in their nonsense. And as your usually awful threads are starting to take a nosedive and get even worse im just interested to see how many of the more nutty Wilder fans that side with you on all your nonsense are going to start backing off from you as you spiral out of all control. Sweetheart.
     
  2. lepinthehood

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    Go to hell before i send you there.
     
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  3. DoubleJ

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    He definitely got extra time after the 12th round knock down. Had it been in the UK and the American was on the deck, it would have been over. No doubt.
     
  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    He didn't win all the other rounds.

    Do yourself a favor and watch the fight on mute without listening to camp fury on commentary and you will see the first half of the fight from 1-5 the rounds could have been given either way.

    Very close rounds and there was a period in the second half of the fight before the first knockdown that Fury began taking control.

    But wilder throughout landed jabs and significant power shots throughout the rounds which caused damage. Nothing fury threw caused any significant damage to Wilder until the 12th round when he was completely gassed. In fact if you check out compubox stats, you will see that round by round he was throwing and landing more punches so this fairy tale myth about fury completly outboxing wilder, is exactly that, a myth

    The draw was a gift to Fury. Without the emotional ''woe is me'' driven propaganda and the hate for Wilder, in a fair contest, he'd have lost the decision or waved off completely once his skull hit the canvas with that amount of force.

    Fury deserves credit for showing heart and making it difficult for Wilder but to say he won and outboxed his opponent after having to rely on the help of the ref, along with holding and smothering tactics and some cute feints, it doesn't cut it at all.

    There's a reason why Fury was praising and thanking the ref and God for being able to go back home to his family and being spared brain damage.

    Not even fury himself could explain how he got back up and that should tell you everything.
     
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  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    There is no question. Thing is he wouldn't even need to hit the deck to be waved off

    We've seen stoppages like this occur in Britain time and time again.

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  6. pow

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    You have to consider the context of the fight. It was the 12th round of a world title fight that the downed fighter was most probably ahead, the referee was absolutely spot on to give him every chance to continue. The Calzaghe fight you referenced was a complete mismatch.
     
  7. bailey

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    The count wasn't long.
    Watch it with the count down clock in the corner. The count of 1 would be at 2:24. When Fury gets completely up it is 2:15 which is 9 seconds. Close but beat the count.

    Also I don't think Fury was prime. He is carrying excess weight which he hasn't completely shed from his time away.

    Fury had only had one title fight in over 3 years
     
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  8. bailey

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    The count wasn't long.
    Watch it with the count down clock in the corner. The count of 1 would be at 2:24. When Fury gets completely up it is 2:15 which is 9 seconds. Close but beat the count.

    Also I don't think Fury was prime. He is carrying excess weight which he hasn't completely shed from his time away.

    Fury had only had one title fight in over 3 years
     
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  9. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Again peddling this nonsense story about his weight.

    Did he suffer from some kind of medical condition that automatically makes him gain weight?

    Or was it weak will?

    This is boxing, where the mentally strong reach the top. Yes he did well to lose weight and deliver the valiant performance, but that's no one's problem but his own.

    Stop talking as if Fury was some kind of victim.

    If a footballer or some other athlete in another sport doesn't bother training properly, and is out drinking every weekend while their competitive or opposing team stays in shape so they can be at their best, then the other team or competetivie cannot be robbed of credit or their due because their foe didn't bother to remain dedicated.

    Like I said before had Wilder pulled half of the stunts Fury pulled throughout his career, he'd be called a crack head, a roid cheat anda waste of space and no one would be willing for him to deliver fairy tale come back wins.
     
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  10. bailey

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    The count wasn't long.
    Watch it with the count down clock in the corner. The count of 1 would be at 2:24. When Fury gets completely up it is 2:15 which is 9 seconds. Close but beat the count.
     
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  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    So now we're meant to consider the context of the fight when it suits fury.

    But when people argue the judges took into consideration that fury didn't do enough to beat the champ, they say the fact Wilder was champ shouldn't come into it.

    Do see what I mean about the double standards? I don't you're doing it intentionally but rather unconsciously. However there others who are down right hypocrites.
     
  12. Mr Icaman

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  13. Braindamage

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    Wha what? There's hypocracy on this here site? LOL You know I've been saying the biggest problem on this site is the outright, unabashed hypocracy displayed by the fanboys. And when you call them on it, they just act like nothing was ever said. SMH Being honest, I did think Fury won, even with the 2 knockdowns. 8-4 Fury.
     
  14. bailey

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    It doesn't need to be peddled.
    Fury was 258lbs against Wilder. 18lbs lighter than when he fought Seferi 6 months previously, yet was 245.5lbs when he fought Maddalone when he was active which is 12.5lbs heavier.
    He was 247lb when he fought Wladimir Klitschko.

    Not sure what you think is being peddled there?

    Dont know and thats not any of my business. Thats not relevant to anything I was saying and appears something you are trying to peddle.
    I just noted that I didnt think Fury was prime and that he was still carrying excess weight that I didnt feel he had got his fighting weight back down as shown above

    Once again, not sure where you are going with this but cant see the relevance to what I said about not thinking Fury is prime?
    Fury has reached the top. He beat the champion in Wladimir Klitschko and drew with the undefeated 40-0 (39KOs) WBC champ in a fight the majority appear to feel he won and was away in both fights. That seems like someone who is mentally strong imo
    Show me where on the most you are commenting on, where I have done that?
    You wont be able. Still you can give us all a chuckle.
    Here is my post again below
    Where have I made Fury out to be a victim?

    Dont disagree.
    Who has said otherwise?
    To think you said I was trying to peddle something lol. Yet you come out all defensive with irrelevance

    Once again. Havent said anything to agree or disagree about that.

    You seem to have an agenda about something. Think you need to get over it and move on
     
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  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Shameless double standards and hypocrisy is what ruins it all

    And when they get called up on they get all defensive and try gas lighting.

    It's fine if you think Fury won, you're entitled to your opinion however misguided it is, but don't call the fight a robbery. Don't ****ing blame the judges but then give that joke ref a free ****ing pass.

    Fury was fighting concussed throughout the latter stages of the fight, didn't land anything hurtful on the champ whilst, Wilder took most of his shots on the gloves but doesn't get any credit for that.

    Yet when Fury makes Wilder miss, the crowd and commentators go wild and start screaming as if he just knocked Wilder out.

    You got that paulie malignaggi having hysterical fits over the microphone and acting is if he just witnessed the twin tower fall down, because he felt Fury should have been given the nod? Why? Because he was coming in his first title fight since his coke fueled drug binge.

    Makes my blood boil reading all the same kind of garbage regurgitated over and over again by these sensationalist hacks looking for a good headline, when the reality is that Fury nearly died in that ring and if he knows what's good for him, he'll avoid that rematch because he'll get the Nick Blackwell treatment if he were to go through with it and he'll be needing to do new documentary's on how how's learnt how to walk and talk again.
     
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